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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:00 PM
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McCain gets lost on stage at event just now
See the video here http://www.americablog.com/

The next entry is interesting.

Something just went wrong with McCain's face on national TV



In the post below, we showed a scene that just took place in which McCain was momentarily confused on stage, not knowing where to go. We posted the video because it was funny. But Joe just realized that literally seconds before McCain became confused on stage, his face twitched or convulsed twice. Look at the photos above and below. They're from around 5 seconds (above) and 11 second (below) into the video Joe posted below.

It happened twice. First in a rather major way at 5 seconds, then more minor at 10/11 seconds. You can see McCain's left eye twitch closed, and at the same time, the left corner of his lip twitched upwards - it's especially pronounced in the 4th photo above. What is going on with McCain's health? This isn't normal. And it happened right before he became confused and couldn't figure out how to get off the stage.

At some point, the corporate media needs to do its job and stop being a bunch of politically correct wimps. We just saw - AGAIN - something go physically wrong with McCain's face. It's not the first time it's happened, we documented it before. But the media refuses to ask McCain what is wrong with him because, well, it's not clear why. McCain is 72 years old, was tortured for five years (which couldn't have done wonders to his health), and then had 4 bouts of serious melanoma. His health is an issue, and he has never fully released his medical records in a way that permits anyone to actually peruse them correctly - he only permitted reports to look at each page of his medical records for about 10 seconds before switching to another page. And no one was permitted to copy or take with any of the records. They're now back under lock and key.

Below is the second twitch/convulsion right before McCain finished and became befuddled. Since the corporate media isn't do its job, and the McCain campaign won't release his records, we have to turn to you. Would any doctors out there please give me an analysis of what could be causing this? Here's something interesting from Wikipedia:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:01 PM
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1. don't worry about McSame's age or health
Sarah Palin has his back!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:02 PM
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2. My grandmother suffered a series of very small strokes before she passed.
There's a specific term for these "little strokes," but I cannot remember it.

Sweet Jesus.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:03 PM
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5. TIA I think
Trans-something ischemic attacks.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:04 PM
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8. transient ischemic attacks
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:10 PM
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22. That's it exactly.
I am about as close to being a medical professional as I am to being a sperm whale, so there's that...but is there any possibility I'm correct about McCain suffering a TIA, or something like that, just now? I know there is disorientation after a TIA from being with my grandmother, but is facial twitching/spasming a sympton also?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:23 PM
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Facial weakness is one of many symptoms that can occur with TIA.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:08 PM
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63. ...
"What is Transient Ischemic Attack?
A transient ischemic attack (TIA) is a transient stroke that lasts only a few minutes. It occurs when the blood supply to part of the brain is briefly interrupted. TIA symptoms, which usually occur suddenly, are similar to those of stroke but do not last as long. Most symptoms of a TIA disappear within an hour, although they may persist for up to 24 hours. Symptoms can include: numbness or weakness in the face, arm, or leg, especially on one side of the body; confusion or difficulty in talking or understanding speech; trouble seeing in one or both eyes; and difficulty with walking, dizziness, or loss of balance and coordination.

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/tia/tia.htm
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:24 PM
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38. could very well be.
oh boy this is scary.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:04 PM
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6. Maybe T.I.A. (Transient Ischemic Attack)
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:05 PM
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11. Wow, I got it right, LOL
I just couldn't remember the first word, so I used Trans-something. :rofl: Thanks.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:07 PM
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16. It would be unethical for me to diagnose without actually seeing the patient. That said,
let me post a little bit of information here.

What is Transient Ischemic Attack?
A transient ischemic attack (TIA) is a transient stroke that lasts only a few minutes. It occurs when the blood supply to part of the brain is briefly interrupted. TIA symptoms, which usually occur suddenly, are similar to those of stroke but do not last as long. Most symptoms of a TIA disappear within an hour, although they may persist for up to 24 hours. Symptoms can include: numbness or weakness in the face, arm, or leg, especially on one side of the body; confusion or difficulty in talking or understanding speech; trouble seeing in one or both eyes; and difficulty with walking, dizziness, or loss of balance and coordination.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:10 PM
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23. Facial spasms?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:15 PM
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28. I had a couple of them a few years back and I didn't know I had them
until they showed up on an MRI that was taken because I had lost my balance and had difficulty walking straight. I have suffered memory loss since then too. If this is what is happening to McCain, he needs to come clean with the electorate. I think the Obama campaign or at least the DNC have the right to demand his medical records.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:25 PM
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39. yea, we don't want to be called Bill Frist.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:18 PM
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58. I think you are right. My father had two right in front of me in one day.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:18 PM
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30. Multi-infarct dementia N/T
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:18 PM
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70. that, too
I've been saying for weeks, he looks like he's had a recent stroke OR there's a return of his cancer. Something is playing havoc with that left eye and left side of face. It looks like nerve damage or brain damage. One or the other, something is going on there is big medical trouble.

Honestly, I think this guy could literally go at any time.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:22 PM
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35. Micro seizures?
I'm going into the hospital to see if I have them.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:00 PM
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62. "little bad seizures."
Or, "petit mal seizures."
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:15 PM
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69. bingo!
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:03 PM
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3. Off track, but did anyone else enjoy
the Dow inching down in the lower right corner as he was speaking?
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:06 PM
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14. Yes, and I also noticed...
...the significant up-tick in the DJ stocks immediately afterwards--when Obama was speaking. Coincidence? Maybe...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:45 PM
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51. It just keeps happening.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:03 PM
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4. Sounds like a stroke.
May not be severe, but still, a stroke.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:05 PM
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10. His father died of a stroke. But it could be his body reacting to his lies.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:14 PM
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26. or the alien lizard trying to get out.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:29 PM
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41. That came out at the convention. He named it Sarah.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:37 PM
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48. LOL!!!...n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:37 PM
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46. Both his father and his grandfather drank themselves to death IMO...n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:11 PM
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68. Maybe they saw the futuree
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:20 PM
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73. Or maybe mental illness runs in the family...n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:14 PM
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75. That's a real possibility.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:04 PM
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7. Is there a doctor in the house?
Is this just a tic or is it a TIA or something else?

I wonder what McCain's blood pressure is? What could be causing this?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:04 PM
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9. Sounds like there is something with his brain
Sometimes I get lost too though its due to a brain injury.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:06 PM
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15. We need to see a brain MRI and an EEG to make sure that the melanoma
is not in his brain. It is scary that if he is elected President (very doubtful) that we may have a worse moron than Bush in the White House.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:09 PM
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20. Melanoma does tend to metastasize and spread to nearby organs ...
... like his eye? Jaw? Sinus? Brain? :shrug:


Just askin' ....
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:18 PM
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29. His face looks unusually puffy of late..
and I read where Cindy has called in her personal cosmetologist to travel with him.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:20 PM
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34. Is that why he paid the guy or girl several thousands if not millions?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:37 PM
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44. Here is the link to the "US Magazine" article..LOL!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:09 PM
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21. True.
No scarring either (which again, is what I have).
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:05 PM
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12. looks like speech is on C-span right now
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:05 PM
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13. The twitch is likely due to nerve damage
from the drastic surgery he has had on that side of his face. I wouldn't read too much into it. It is likely painful, so I wouldn't read too much into a momentary lapse of verbiage and concentration.

I wouldn't want him operating complicated and dangerous machinery, but I don't find this too serious.

What I do find serious are all his massive gaffes on his supposed strength, foreign policy. I still think he's showing clear signs of early dementia.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:12 PM
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25. I just heard it on Hartman so I looked it up and posted it
I don't know if its anything or not, just wanted to post it if anybody was interested. It is a worthwhile discussion.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:07 PM
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17. K&R #2 for, It's one of those iconic moments of impending LOSING!1
Like DOLE falling off a stage, LAZIO tripping in a parade. It's a SIGN, I tellya!1
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:07 PM
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18. Holy F***ing Sh**, this is just plain FRIGHTENING
:hide: This man and his followers think he's capable of running the country for 4 years??? :scared:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:27 PM
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40. no, that is why Paulin is there, McCain sold his soul to the right
wing fundis, now that is something to be wary about.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:37 PM
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47. I've been on stage where I couldn't remember if I had a stage right or stage left exit
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 01:07 PM by fed_up_mother
And as many times as he is on stage (sometimes several a day), I'm not concerned about this.

It's all the other misspoken words, gaffes, anger, etc. that worries me. Not to mention his right wing policies!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:00 PM
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56. The concern for me was the expression on his face when he was looking for the exit
I agree, he has been on so many stages lately, not being sure which way to go could easily happen. But he looks confused and his face looks a bit slack when he is looking.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:08 PM
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19. "Just a few more weeks, John ... hang on just a few more weeks ...
and then we will turn off your re-animator machinery, and your soul can rest ... "
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:11 PM
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24. Wow...

:scared:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:15 PM
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27. My husband caught this and said,"What's wrong with McCain's eye?"
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 12:53 PM by snappyturtle
We played it back....HELLO??? OMG....then there's palin. :hide:


edit: No this isn't the one.....another, BUT he looked 'funny' in that one too! It was the same eye!!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:19 PM
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31. Thom Hartmann read from the Americablog post a few minutes ago.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:19 PM
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32. It burns me up that he won't let anyone really look at his medical history
What else can we conclude but he's hiding something? :shrug:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:20 PM
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33. C'mon people.... John was just looking for
his beachball..

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:23 PM
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36. oh boy, this guy is probably going to have a stroke.
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:24 PM
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37. And?
postpone tomorrow night's debate?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:29 PM
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42. that debate is something I am not looking forward too.
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 12:37 PM by alyce douglas
I think even if she does miserably the corporate media will probably prop her up. Joe Biden against that stupid woman.

just watched the video, that man is not well, very confused just getting off stage.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:36 PM
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43. No sarcasm or humor here ..... the man is clearly in ill health
I am wondering about melanoma metastasized to his brain.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:39 PM
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49. any nursing professionals here to discuss this.
I mean what would happen if something did happen to him, would they ..............:hide: suspend the campaign or stop the election.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:37 PM
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45. Well I''ve been hoping he'd
Get Lost!! :D
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:43 PM
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50. "Here's something interesting from Wikipedia:" ...
... I think the link got dumped somewhere along the way.


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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:49 PM
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53. Sorry, it was over the 4 paragraph limit.
It was on other causes for facial tics like Bell's Palsey.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:09 PM
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57. You can still post the link now! n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:21 PM
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60. You could click on the link provided and read it, but here it is
Several conditions can cause a facial paralysis, e.g., brain tumor, stroke, and Lyme disease. However, if no specific cause can be identified, the condition is known as Bell's Palsy.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:47 PM
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52. That's on the side of his face where the melanoma was.
Wonder if that's a factor.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:58 PM
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55. Possible, this is where it would be helpful to release the medical records
Otherwise speculation will run rampant.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:52 PM
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54. but...as a former POW...
there does that distract you. Looks like McLame needs to become the distinguished former senator from Az rather than the guy who made Sara Palin president.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:19 PM
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59. Slow motion video of the twitches
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:56 PM
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61. bump because I don't want a President Palin
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:19 PM
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64. Someone has to tell Cindy McCain to get her husband to the hospital.
If she really loves him, or if she cares about her children's father, she will get him to a hospital right away.

Would Cindy rather lose a husband than lose a chance at First Lady?


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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:57 PM
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65. Good question
And sad to say I'm not sure of the answer.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:02 PM
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66. I made it a poll question ...
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:08 PM
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67. Interesting
But I think no matter whether she asks or not, he will ignore her.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:21 PM
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71. Honestly, I don't think she will; she knows her place. n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:13 PM
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72. evening bump
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:21 PM
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74. How wierd. Was it a stroke of some kind? I watched the video
at Americablog and he really was confused about how/where to exit the stage.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:23 PM
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76. That is troubling. Very troubling
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:10 PM
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77. Kick
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:15 PM
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78. held captive by a wall of US flags
oooh the irony :rofl:

Good thing that flak showed up, old effer mighta starved.

Vid link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW-9zA0x5Sg
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:35 AM
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79. Just the Alzheimer's kicking in, McCain is taking medication for that you know
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80. kick because this is important
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81. K for answers
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