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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:53 PM Original message |
You people who keep referring to giving money to "Wall Street"... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Your line of thinking is essentially fascist. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How so? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Because it equates the well being of the rich and the powerful institutions that create inequality.. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Are you talking about the CEO's, or the pukes like you and I that work for the banks? |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. It's called globalism |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. How so? n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Fascism rejected the concept of class conflict, preferring to see society as... |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. That's the most nebulous definition of a governing ideology I've ever heard. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. It's not a definition, it's an elaboration. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. That could describe many ideologies. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
102. Communism is based on the concept of class conflict. |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. I rather go by what Michael Moore says on this one |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. If the sky is viewed to be falling... |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Not always, but in this case, yes, it is. nt |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. The sky is not falling. There are no WMD. That's not a Red under your bed. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I hate aphorisms, BUT... |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. The fall of the market today was entirely a result not of economic forces, |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. The lack of credit liquidity is real, menacing and decades' or deregulation in the making |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. And? |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. You have to understand the problem before |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. This sounds like alot of Bush talk. Be afraid. Be very, very afraid. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. You are compairing this to WMD? You understand major institutions have already failed right? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. This is precisely WMD. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
96. No. But that does not make them the same. |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. and they are going to continue to fail regardless of this bill's outcome. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Yet five Euro countries implement similar bailouts over the last 48 hours |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
89. Those were not at all similar bailouts |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Martial law huh? I think you need to calm down a bit. n/t |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
94. Thats true, but many were just nationalized in the last 48 hours. |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. For Once let them take care of real needs first, get to the root of the whole problem. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes people, this is a SERIOUS CRISIS! |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Note to poster: The market has already failed. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No it hasn't... |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. When your son fails math, do you take him out of school? |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Erroneous, simplistic analogy. nt |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Just a fact. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. No, sloppy thinking |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. I keep seeing you and others saying this, but not one of you has |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. You have to understand macroeconomics |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. Yes, the market has failed. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. There are degrees of failure in a market |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. It can't be stopped at this point. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. If it can't be stopped, you're contradicting yourself in your second paragraph |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. We can't stop the 25 to 200 Trillion.. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I think you're confusing your short-term and long-term issues |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. The markets have gotten.. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Can you reference these infusions and their objects? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I'm not really arguing against immediate intervention.. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. No, it fails in successive convulsions, not a single event |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. no NO it has not. Some major institutions have. The market as a whole is in danger... |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. A failed market is one that surges and falls drastically |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes, it's a tourniquet to keep the economy alive until |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. You got it. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
93. Can we really afford for our friends in the Beltway to sit around for 4 months |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. No shit... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well, now where Wall Street turn? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. The market problems will end, but the hyperbole never will. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
25. You'd Rather Be a Slave to Amoral Looters |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. LOL so it's the "Consumer Confidence" bailout? |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. Take the "invisible hand" that broad market you refer to and go sit on it |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. Ahhh, don't you love posts that start out with "you people"? |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Philboy you don't know what might happen |
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gopbuster (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. Some don't realize that stock prices are directly related to a companies |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. They'll milk their own cows, evidently. |
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gopbuster (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. lol...well i guess if you have... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Yup yup. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. And don't think they'll fuck themselves! |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. Before you spread that kind of fear mongering.. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Not if they have no equity. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Funny... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. No, they haven't actually. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
39. Right. "We ran the economy into a ditch, now give us $700bn and have confidence in us." |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Right on TYL n/t |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
107. Beautiful summary! |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. YOu have no more to base this on then Bush had for WMD. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'm tired of this being presented as an "either/or" proposition |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
66. So sorry but I don't have time to figure it out |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
91. The point is, the bailout wouldn't have helped you |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
84. Thanks for saying what I've been thinking. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
43. Then let's have a good bill. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. stocks have inheritent risks. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
50. Oh, goody. Economics for kindergarten. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Ok....tell me what you learned.... |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
51. The stock market is every man, woman and child in this country, whether you own stocks or not. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. I like the rolling eyes.... |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. It's kinda like |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Wall Street |
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MrKalashnikov (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. You people.... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
60. Um, a bit more research is in order: 'Every Man A Speculator' is not a history of Wall Street... |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
63. Anybody here use paper products, any manufactured goods - they require letters of credit to produce |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Confidence is indeed the problem... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
72. Take a Good Look At This |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
75. Baa, baa, sheepboy. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Ha! Sheepboy... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
101. You never took on american history class did you? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Quite the contrary, my knowledge of the GD is pretty deep, but more importantly my knowledge |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
82. When you cut jobs, don't create new ones, and cut wages, then... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
90. And I completely and totally disagree with you. But thank you for your |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
92. **Read This** |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
95. The market is self regulating. That is why this happened. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
97. BULL CRAP |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
99. It's not going to fail withouth this ridiculous corporate welfare program. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. 5 more banks have failed in the last few days. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
100. bull shit! |
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chupacabranation (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. I'm glad you have a great situation, truly... |
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106. You are obfuscating REALITY... |
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