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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:09 PM
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Republicans choose depression
And shame on every Democrat who voted no on this bill.

If the government doesn't act, another great depression will be upon us. Like usual, the government doesn't seem to care.

They're rich, you see. They'll be fine.
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:11 PM
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1. Oh for christ's sake
calm down.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:13 PM
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4. I guess you have job security
A lot of other people, though, don't.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:16 PM
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6. Can't do that. It's more fun running around with our hair on fire, instead of letting cooler heads
prevail, don't you know? :silly: I likes me some smoking gun=mushroom cloud. :evilgrin:
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:12 PM
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2. I agree. Not a perfect bill, but
it was better than what Bush and your Treasury Secretary wanted.
This bill needs to be passed. We CANNOT wait until January.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:13 PM
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3. I'm not a conspiracy theorist
but it almost seems like they know they will lose big in Nov and want to leave the biggest mess possible for Obama and the Democrats. Call me cynical but it just stinks too much for me not to be.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:16 PM
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5. Please tell me chicken little, how would the bailout prevent depression?
:shrug:
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:23 PM
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8. credit
It would put money in the hands of banks to provide credit, loans and investments and keep the economy moving. The fiat monetary system in the US relies upon those things in order to work. Without them it falls. By not passing the bailout the banks have little to no ability to offer credit and the economy stops and falls right into a depression.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:25 PM
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10. So what is too prevent these crooks for pulling the same crap again?
Bailed out by the taxpayers with no oversight and no regulation, you think they won't try this again?
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:27 PM
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13. Nobody LIKES the situation
It's a choice between bad and worse, and today the politicians chose worse.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:39 PM
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19. That's not the choice
The choice is between delaying worse and worse.
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:28 PM
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14. um
I thought the bill had oversight and regulation in it which is why it was primarily rejected by the republicans.

Plus, can you honestly tell me that banks want this to happen again and would welcome a failing economy? Didn't think so.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:37 PM
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17. OK, so what happens when the $700 billion runs out?
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:19 PM
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7. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Nobody voted for a depression. The Dems who voted against it (way to go DK), voted against the robbery of the Treasury by the Bush administration. It doesn't help anybody but the rich. Don't be fooled by what you hear on TV.
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:25 PM
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9. fooled
Looks more like we were fooled by people who have no understanding of the situation other than the drivel you posted.

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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:38 PM
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18. Who is this bailout helping?
Who is overseeing where this money is going and who gets it?
Wallstreet is already looking for ways to profit from this mess. Instead of bailing out wallstreet bailout the people. Use that money to start work programs, fund health care for all Americans. Then you allow people that are holding these bad mortgages to renegotiate their mortgages down to something that they can pay. Thus keeping people in their houses and allowing banks to get paid. Trickle down doesn't work it never has. This bailout is nothing more than trickle down. So go ahead and support this robbery and when the real depression hits don't look for any help from the government because the government will not have any money to help.
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:45 PM
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22. no idea
It is bailing out the people by providing money to the banks to resume lending and provide credit which is what makes our economy work. The fiat monetary system we use relies on this. If we just give the money to the people and let the banks fall it does nothing for the people except provide them with worthless money when the economy falls and inflation skyrockets.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:26 PM
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11. it's completly ignorant to buy into the politician generated hype
this bill sucked-it put an unbelievable amount of power into the hands of a very few people, let alone bailing out people who ought to be but in jail
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:27 PM
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12. Wall street bullies are scaring you.
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:29 PM
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15. 700+
point drop is just a scare tactic because they like losing money. :eyes:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:43 PM
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20. Not even in the top 10 worst days
And there wouldn't have been a 700 point drop if the market wasn't artifically inflated last week.
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:47 PM
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23. confidence
Confidence in the availability of creidt plays an important role in our economy. By declining to pass the bill it reduced confidence and we saw that reflected in the market.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:32 PM
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16. Ignorance won't help you here
When banks stop lending money, investment dries up. When investment dries up, the economy dives. Do you realize that the conditions today are almost 100% in step with the conditions of 1929? The government didn't do anything back then, either.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:44 PM
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21. This whole thing starting to look like the IWR
Pass this bill or the economy will fail, and trust me to do the right thing! Just like the IWR it was being rushed through Congress under a threat of something happenning and Congress folded under the fear of losing their jobs. This time the fear tactics didn't work.
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