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coyote Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:22 AM
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Much Being Hidden from Public - Treasury Conference Call
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 04:35 AM by coyote
Monday, September 29, 2008
Mussolini-Style Corporatism in Action: Treasury Conference Call on Bailout Bill to Analysts (Updated)


Various readers wrote us, and it was confirmed by a detailed report on the call at DealBreaker, that the Treasury Department held a conference call this evening for analysts on the bailout bill. A memo was evidently sent to SIFMA members; others may have been contacted by other means. But the report I got from one person who was on the call was the the questions came from financial services industry members. In other words, this was most assuredly not intended to be a call open to the public at large. If anyone from the media or other member of the great unwashed was listening in, it was by accident.

This is simply scandalous. To have a group of interested parties get a privileged briefing by government officials on a matter of keen public interest flies in the face of what a democracy is supposed to be about. The proper method would either be a published FAQ on the Treasury website or a briefing with the media included. But why should I be surprised? Favoritism has been a staple of the Bush Administration.

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Update 12:30 AM: Have queued up recording of conference call but not yet listened to it. But reader and sometime contributor Lune provides a useful take. Hoisted from comments:

1) If even the Treasury is saying tranching is a formality, then it really is nothing. Not sure why Dems fought so hard for a fig leaf.

2) Waiting a couple of weeks because no one has any idea when or where the next bomb will blow up. In other words, all their doomsday scenarios about Black Monday were B.S. They screamed the check had to be written by Monday, but now they're saying they actually have a few weeks before they need to cash it. Plus, this will allow them to "seek guidance" from GS, JPM, and other selfless public servants about where the money should be funneled.

more.....

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/mussolini-style-corporatism-in-action.html

Here is the MP3 of the treasury conference call:

http://www.filesavr.com/sifma

From conference call:

Q: Guy Moszkowski, Merrill Lynch: Is your goal with the pricing mechanism to inject as much liquidity and capital or is it to force recognition of losses and consolidation so we can see who will survive and who will die.
A: Hard to say either of those extremes. It's a balancing act.

Q: Mike Holt, Boston Company: when will the treasury start purchasing these assets? Wednesday? A couple weeks?
A: A few weeks, several weeks, once Congress passes bill
Q: But some people will fail before that?
A: We understand.

Q: Didn't catch the name, Davis Polk: When you decide to buy non,residential/commercial assets, do you have to ask for approval?
A: No, just consult with fed chair and send a note to congress


Q: Jeff, didn't catch firm name: Is there any way to ensure the purchased dollars are actually re-lent back into the system? will that be mandated?
A: No provision for that
Q: Can you add that?
A: We're always open and considering.



We are so screwn!!!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:32 AM
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1. i hope some of the financial experts here are reading.
mushroom cloud!!

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:40 AM
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2. 5.
Of course the exec comp provisions are a joke. Who do you think is going to be hiring all those banking cmte staffers and newly retired congresspeople next year during the inevitable post-election turnover? Do you really think they're going to vote to limit their salaries? Remember that for lots of people on the Hill (including elected reps), govt work is merely time you spend accumulating credentials in preparation for your real life's work in the vastly richer private world
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:41 AM
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3. everything will be so easy
No, just consult with fed chair and send a note to congress

fuck this bailout. just fuck it.
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:41 AM
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4. Here are youtube audio links
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coyote Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:43 AM
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6. you beat me to it
Thanks!
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coyote Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:43 AM
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5. SIFMA Conference Call with US Treasury Youtube Links
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:58 AM
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16. Kicking, rec'd. everyone needs to know about this.
Those bastards are lying, lying, lying.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:46 AM
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7. so this is going to go on for another few weeks?
what?
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:21 AM
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8. We Are Being Manipulated People - Wake The *uck Up!
eom
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:42 AM
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9. i listened to it
it sounds to me as if henry paulson is fixing to become our de facto dictator and it was stressed time and again (not in these words) that the secretary will have carte blanche to do whatever he wants with the money no questions asked.

i think we're being screwed, one more time.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:53 AM
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10. Favoritism and secrecy are big in the bu$h regime
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:06 AM
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11. Good Lord !!!! K&R
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:08 AM
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12. This pretty much puts the lie to "hurry hurry hurry". . . n/t
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:31 AM
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13. So how do we get this "out there" for all to hear?
Has anyone seen a transcript of the entire call? Anyone get this to the Obama Camp, KO, etc..........
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:42 AM
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14. What if O. loses and Gramm is Treasury Sec.?

This could go so much worse than we think. It should be very limited until the next Congress.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:18 AM
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15. K&R:(
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:26 PM
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17. Kicking again. n/t
:kick:
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:25 AM
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18. READ ME!!! (swift kick and rec)
Why ain't this up on the big board?
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:02 AM
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19. kick
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