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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:22 PM
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AIPAC backed removal of Iran war provision
AIPAC backed removal of Iran war provision

AIPAC lobbying helped remove a provision from a bill that would have required President Bush to seek congressional approval for war against Iran. A number of congressional sources confirmed that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee backed dropping the provision from the Iraq war spending bill introduced Tuesday by Democrats. The bill ties funding to deadlines for withdrawal from Iraq.

AIPAC and a number of Democrats close to Israel said the provision would have hampered the president as he attempted to leverage Iran into backing down from its alleged nuclear weapon plans. Others said the provision simply reasserted the constitutional role of the U.S. Congress in declaring war that is believed to have been eroded by Bush during the Iraq war.
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/100580.html




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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:23 PM
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:30 PM
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2. What we already knew! Dear!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:31 PM
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3. 4 am is pretty early.
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/100556.html

Olmert: Back U.S. in Iraq

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called on U.S. Jews to back a continued U.S. presence in Iraq.

"When America succeeds in Iraq, Israel is safer," Olmert said late Monday in a live satellite address from his Jerusalem home to 6,000 delegates attending the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s annual policy conference in Washington. "The friends of Israel know it, the friends who care about Israel know it. They will keep the Americans strong, powerful and convincing."

Olmert's plea was greeted with polite applause in a hall packed with hundreds of representatives from the Democratic and Republican Parties and at a time when the Democratic majorities in both Houses of Congress are pushing legislation that would roll back the U.S. presence in Iraq.

Delegates greeted Olmert's repeated entreaties, delivered from the living room from his home at 4 a.m. Israel time, with polite applause; AIPAC is striving to build bipartisan support for tightening sanctions on Iran.


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:51 PM
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4. Olmert faces fall-out from Lebanon report
Olmert faces fall-out from Lebanon report
By Harvey Morris in Jerusalem

Published: March 13 2007 21:13 | Last updated: March 13 2007 21:13

A commission investigating Israeli failings in last year’s war in Lebanon on Tuesday placed a potential time bomb under the government of Ehud Olmert by saying its interim report due next month would draw conclusions about the prime minister’s personal responsibility.

Most of Mr Olmert’s one-year-old term has been dominated by the Lebanon conflict and its aftermath which, coupled with a string of corruption scandals, have reduced his popularity rating to single figures.

A spokesman for the government-appointed commission headed by Eliyahu Winograd, a retired judge, said the interim report would examine events leading up to the 34-day war that was sparked by Hizbollah’s abduction of two Israeli soldiers last July.

Contrary to recent unsourced leaks to the media, it would also include personal conclusions regarding the responsibility of Mr Olmert, Amir Peretz, defence minister, and Dan Halutz, the retired chief of staff, a spokesman for the commission said.

The prospect of a critical report has exacerbated a postwar political malaise that has already led many commentators to question how long the Olmert cabinet can survive.

Mr Olmert is among a number of ministers who face questioning in a series of corruption cases. One is on trial for making politically motivated appointments and another quit to face a charge of sexual misconduct, of which he was found guilty. Other institutional scandals have erupted in the police and the tax authority.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/be6c6ca6-d18b-11db-b921-000b5df10621.html

I guess he had to do something to change the subject!

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:18 PM
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5. It will be the American Jewish community that will feel the backlash
that the stories about Israel's role in getting us into Iraq, and getting us into another war in Iran.

I wonder if AIPAC even realizes that they, and Cheney, are playing into Al-Qaeda's hands by repeating the widely held belief in the Middle East that the war in Iraq was a Zionist plot. It was Cheney that said yesterday that to leave Iraq would harm Israel.

Pretty sad when Israel's friends repeat what her enemies say.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:29 PM
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15. The whooped and hollered for Rev Hagee, who is a rightwing nutcase for war with
Iran.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:25 PM
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6. So, in essence, AIPAC lobbied for subversion of the US Constitution ..
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 06:27 PM by Maat
which gives the power to declare war ... ONLY to CONGRESS.

We are not supposed to be invading, attacking and occupying on the basis of the president's desires, or his supporters.'

It is disgusting that we can attack without specific Congressional permission for each and every attack on a sovereign nation. Let's get back to the Constitutional framework!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:44 PM
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7. mission accomplished
again
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:47 PM
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8. Quite 'proud' of themselves...aren't they? n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:11 PM
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9. Who's the author of this? There's no sources in the "article". Not even a date.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:23 PM
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11. It comes from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.
my bogus-seeing friend.

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/home/index.html
that's the home page. On the Right side is the breaking news. Click the link.

Shessh.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:27 PM
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13. If you don't like the way JTA formats its articles, or if you believe the
Jewish Telegraphic Agency is biased against Jews, contact them directly.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:15 PM
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10. I hope no DUers are stupid enough to form an opinion based on this bogus article
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:17 PM by brentspeak
A genuine news article is supposed to have a) named sources; b) at least a date of publication; c) the name of an author or news agency.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:26 PM
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12. It has the source, for crying out loud.
see #11
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:28 PM
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14. Fuck Them!
Ugh!:grr: Selfish is only one word for them......
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:46 PM
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16. I thought we weren't beholden to "special interests?"
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:50 PM
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17. No, that means the ACLU (not kidding... ask sen. schumer)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16785556/page/7/
(on "special Interest groups)
SEN. SCHUMER: Well, all of them. Left, right and center. I bring up, in my book, talk when I got to Congress in 1980, for instance, and that was—that was about crime was ripping apart my district. I come to Washington, and I find out that the ACLU is writing crime legislation, has a veto over any piece of crime legislation. Now, they should be at the table. Their views should be considered. But our job, whether we’re Democrat or Republican, is not to just take what the interest groups want and just make it into legislation, it’s to balance their needs against others’.

yeah. right. but in the case of aipac, just balance the need for steady flow of campaign funding (provided by aipac supporters) against the need to prevent a war... which wins? easy... war is not as bad as losing an election
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