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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:09 PM Original message |
Poll question: Beliefs About Evolution |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. The nuns laughed at creationism when I was in Catholic school. |
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elshiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. The nuns said the same thing at my college. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Yup. nt |
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WA98070 (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. To say the Nuns "laughed at creationism" isn't fair. Simplistic 7 day creation yes, but .... |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. God might be the formal and final cause, while not being a material cause. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I mentioned that in the OP, did I not? |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. I would be more comfortable with "I agree with the theory" than "I believe" |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I agree. I prefer "understand evolution". n/t |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Same here ... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. "Accept/acknowledge the proven fact" also works. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
109. Or as Chris Rock said in Dogma |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. As a biologist my research findings must be accurate but my interpretation only approximates truth |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. A biologist, eh? Tell me--which camp are you in? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
89. While I read your OP, I was thinking "what about viruses"? |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. hmmm ... I suppose there was a 'God' at some point ... |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Agreed... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Wow, that's an awfully complex theory based on no evidence whatsoever. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Which parts do you disagree with... and why? n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Uh, where to start? Misuses of the word "theory" to describe wild guesses... |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the definition of 'theory' before you say anything else.. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Quite disingenuous, given that we're discussing scientific theory in this thread... |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. What *you* don't seem to comprehend is the fact that I responded |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Ahhhh, touched a nerve. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Now who's being disingenuous? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
93. this displays your ignorance of science - and the SPECIFIC meaning of theory in science |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. Your reply displays *your* ignorance... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. if you were being facetious, then, yes, I apologize n/t |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #35 |
94. Here's a partial list of what I disagree with: |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
62. it is not a theory |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. VERY plausible & logical! |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. I actually told this to some Jehovah's Witnesses that came knocking on my door one day.. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
91. "the simplest explanation"? That's not your one |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #91 |
100. . |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I'm not 'pissing' on anything |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
122. Um...or maybe life arose on Earth, and what we see now |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. Other. I believe "God" IS evolution. And vice versa. nt |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Intriguing. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Not really. I don't believe in a deity, except maybe like Myrina and Ghost in |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I agree n/t |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. so they are competing belief systems? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well I don't *personally* think so, no. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. that is how I see it |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Well, given that science and thus evolutionary science are not belief systems... no. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. right |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. And well-done! |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. Other: TRICK QUESTION! No one "believes" in evolution ... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. I think a person could understand it without accepting it. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. One can understand the Biblical stories without accepting them, however ... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. Yes, and because that is your belief that is a statement about you |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. The word "believe" is being used incorrectly. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. That's interesting because many who accept evolution don't understand it |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Which is not what I said in #47. n/t |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Yep. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. And all of those are misstated |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. The basic problem is people who know nothing about science and its history.... |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No shit....so true your words.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Like Palin - who believes not only in creationism but that man walked with dinosaurs. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. For those that believe in God and evolution, what did God evolve from? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Believers - at least in God as seen in the monotheistic religions of today |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Well, that qualifies as just another theory. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. It's not even a theory. It's a bald assertion lacking any evidence. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. exactly |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #40 |
84. Does it make you feel better to be |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
83. Of course. Faith isn't something to be "proved" with scientific |
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holybarcode (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. What is known about gravity is a theory. Anyone who doubts it can jump off a bridge to disprove it. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
19. God still hasn't decided if he's going to have to clean out this particular petri dish & start over |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. I believe in evolution |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
22. I do believe in God, and I do believe there's a creator's hand |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
56. Science doesn't just look at how |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
85. Of course it does, Scott |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Please then |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. First |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #90 |
103. And what are those answers to the "why" questions? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Boy you're a pleasant one |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. Pleasant? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. So, stereotyping and bigotry are fine by you, so long as they're |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. Evolution is Science. God is not |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
96. Faith is most certainly not science |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
107. thank you for Such an Eloquent and Well Written Response |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. Other. I agree with the theory of evolution, but have a different "creation story" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. The poll is flawed. There's no belief about it; evolution is an observed fact. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Which lab demonstration of evolution did you find most convincing? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Obviously the micro in the lab, the fossil record for the macro. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. I regularly muse on how DU'ers talk about demonstrating evolution |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
87. Despite being a biologist |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #87 |
125. When someone says they can demonstrate evolution |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. I like the classic pepper moth example -- undeniable evidence of evolution at work |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. That's a stupid distinction in the first place |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I think it was a poor attempt to trip me up (that utterly failed). |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
76. I don't think evolutionary theorists actually agree with your position |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
106. Of course it isn't satisfactory; the two are a false creationist dichotomy in the first place. (nt) |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
120. Evolution is evolution is evolution. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
98. I think Richard Lenski's E. coli experiment is particularly convincing |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #98 |
116. When there are species-defining changes it's going to be seen as macro- |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. "The Alpha and the Omega ... the Beginning and the End..." |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
53. I can not answer the poll... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I think you meant to type "do NOT need belief" |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Oops...all better...thanks..LOL |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. Evolution is a fact (fossil record). Natural Selection is a "theory" about how evolution occurred. |
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GreenEyedLefty (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. My views on evolution are evolving... |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
65. Nice poll, but not crazy about use of the word "belief". |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
67. Other: I agree with the theory of evolution. There is no god. n/t |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
71. "...believe in..." |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-20-08 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
72. and it's my opinion and that of many others that there is no one here |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
75. Other - I make no pretense of knowing. |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
77. I accept the evidence of evolution |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
79. The first one. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
80. Never mind, Zhade already said it. n/t |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
81. Totally a non-issue |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
108. Love the claim of non-provenness in a thread full of same (nt) |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. I'm not sure I understand fully |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. If you say evolution's nonprovable, then I do, because your belief is wrong. (nt) |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:10 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Hence, the "arrogance" part of my statement |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Have fun ignoring observed reality! (nt) |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Why are you so fucking snarky???? |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
88. Just my thoughts - Since you asked . . . |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
92. Read Karl Popper on science |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
95. Those who vote for the second choice, a question: |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. God was, is and always will be |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
99. Other: |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
101. Please do not use the word "believe" when speaking of evolution. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
119. Where's the option for the "Garrison theory"?? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
121. Evolution is fact. |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
123. Willful stupidity is not a fact |
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geek_sabre (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
124. I voted "other" |
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