SCREW'EM!!! Time to shut down the system that considers you "immoral"

[gatorboy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-karel-bouley/who-exactly-are-you-cal_b_43321.html

<snip>

.....65,000 are estimates of how many gay and lesbians are serving in the military right now. And General Pace, a high ranking military official, recently shared his beliefs that homosexuality is immoral, likened it to adultery and said it should not be tolerated in the military and certainly that gays and lesbians should not be able to serve openly. Fine, then let us out, send us home. And, if you are gay, you should refuse, yes, refuse to go in to the military until it accepts you openly. How little self esteem do you have, anyway? And don't give me all this working within the system bullshit, where has that gotten you so far? "Don't ask,don't tell..." Ya, that's progress. Do your partners get benefits if you die? Nope, not officially. Can you even go down on the "family" area and greet them when they return from battle? Not in many instances. So leave, and don't join.

Because that's how you win. You grab the country and the military by the short hairs. It's an all volunteer army and if 65,000, roughly half of what is in Iraq right now, walked, think about the implications. They can't be courtmarshalled. They can all just walk up and tell everybody they're big flaming homos and out they go. The military will even do the job of removing them from service without them having to break any laws.

I grow tired of my community trying to make organizations accept them, states, recognize them, governments respect them. We have power in numbers, and in our wallets, use it. If a state votes against same sex marriage or civil unions, move to a state that allows them. Reward the economies of fair states with your home purchases, car purchases, tax payments. Punish those that don't. Leave churches that don't accept you as a whole, real, non-broken person. Screw the Catholics and Evangelicals. Find a place where a real god, a god of love and acceptance is worshipped. Take your tithes, your physical presence, your donations elsewhere.

It's time we stop begging everybody to accept us and just reward the people that do. And when those that don't feel that crush, lose that money, lose those bodies, lose the revenues, when the rolls dwindle or areas don't get rejuvenated and property values shoot up (every time gays take over an area, it shoots up, ask South Beach in Miami, Hillcrest in San Diego, West Hollywood in California, Castro in San Francisco) when people start realizing that gays make this country work just like non-gays, and that without us some of the wheels just won't turn as well, then change will come.

And to the United States Federal Government: gays and lesbians should fight all the way up to the Supreme court over taxation. Why on Earth should we be forced to pay federal taxes when we have generals calling us immoral, a president pushing for a Federal amendment to outlaw our union, no federal protection from states that ban our rights, DOMA, the Federal Defense of Marriage Act...no, if the US of A doesn't want to treat us like citizens, then why should we have to pay them like ones? There's a valid class action suit just waiting to happen.

[shain from kane]

1. Only Christian Soldiers?

[gatorboy]

2. Que Pasa?

[shain from kane]

4. By way of explanation, it is a pun on "Onward, Christian Soldiers", which is a

Christian hymn. My implication was that it is General Pace's theme song, as he conducts his Crusade, in that he would only accept Christian soldiers. The rest of the recruits would be considered immoral, and less than human, and qualify for cannon fodder.

[gatorboy]

5. Heh! Forgive Hulk.

Hulk slow. :P

[Political_Junkie]

3. Awesome!

This is right on the money. Hit 'em where it hurts.

[Morgana LaFey]

6. This is the kind of attitude that

I LOVE.

[rbrison]

7. Oh well.

I would rather be ethical then moral any day. Can anyone who has a brain seriously give a crap about what ancient goat herders thought? their idea of morality is stoning some poor bastard to death for gathering wood on the sabbath.

[ms liberty]

8. This is an interesting idea...

If the 65,000 figure is correct, and every gay/lesbian soldier in the armed services identified themselves publicly and demanded to be sent home and released from their service, the war would be over, and the whole tenor of the issue would change. A point would be made - pointedly! And the bigoted narrow minded fundies would NOT volunteer in droves in order to replace them - after all, they're mostly just armchair warriors. If they were joined by retired and injured military, and the families of our fallen heroes who are/were gay/lesbians, how many people would we be talking about? WAY more than our prejudiced fundie flag wavers could handle.

I'm not sure, however, what the legal ramifications of refusing to pay taxes because of this issue would do. I'm not against it, or saying it couldn't work. I do think a class action suit should be investigated.

I say this as a hetero southern white woman, who thinks every American should be treated exactly the same under the law without regard to their skin color, sexual orientation, religious beliefs or lack thereof; their political, cultural, economic beliefs; or any other beliefs for that matter.

[gatorboy]

10. Amen! n/t

[StefanX]

9. I am so sick and tired of being a political football

Pardon my language but I am REALLLY fucking sick and tired of hearing that MY sex life is a problem for this country.

There are a lot of things wrong with this country, but the fact that I like boys isn't one of them. I've been this way all my life, and by the way, anyone who's read Bruce Bagemihl PhD's book "Biological Exuberance" knows that MOST animal species have some homosexual members.

The Republican party needs to find another plank to run on besides my sex life.

Problem is, they don't HAVE anything else to run on. Sad, really.