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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:35 PM
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Do republicans just get to ignore subpoenas, or what?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/palin_troopergate

Goddamn, it's just ridiculous!! Put. Them. In. Jail!!

:mad:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:35 PM
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1. Unless we elect Dems into office, yes nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:36 PM
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2. Yes... they invite direct conflict
... they are begging for big Daddy to throw down the hammer.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:37 PM
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3. Kazak, try this next time you get a subpoena, let me know how it works out for you.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:14 PM
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7. No, Fucking. Shit!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:16 PM
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8. I'm. So. Pissed...
I can't. even. speak. without. a fullstop. after. every. fucking. word!!!

:nuke:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:44 PM
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4. Yeah they support "the rule of law" unless its them...
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 08:45 PM by Historic NY
how do civilans get around not testifying....everyone from now on should just tell the DA/s etc. to f--k off.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:50 PM
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5. Yes and it will continue to be so until someone gets the guts
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 09:04 PM by Liberalynn
to call enough and throw their contempt of court asses in jail. Why aren't the defense lawyers all jumping on this great opportunity the Rethugs are handing them? Why don't they all just say my client feels the individual filing the charges is doing so based soley on personal vendetta, so my client, is not going to show up to court, and you have no authority to jail him for anything.

If I were a D.A. even, I'd be screaming that the Pukes are setting a dangerous precedent. If the Pukes all get to ignore subponeas, then everyone should have that right, and others should start claiming that right in court.

We should all start writing letters to the editor, and calling into CSPAn and the like asking if supboneas are optional for all of us now?

Reformers, yeah right. :grr:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:52 PM
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6. they think they are above the law, oh, this has to stop.
throw them in freaking jail huh? WTF!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:22 PM
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9. Obviously they are above the Law.
No one that has ignored a Subpoena has suffered any consequences for doing so.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:46 AM
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23. This is because Republicans follow a higher law.
See - ask anyone - Republicans have achieved a level of moral superiority and divinity that absolves them from the laws of men. The laws of God trump all lesser authority. Only when God commands them to obey earthly subpoenas will they do so (with a message via Pat Robertson, of course).
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:23 PM
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10. I am wondering the same thing.
I just woke up from a nap, and heard that Todd Palin will ignore his subpoena.

How does that work? Subpoenas aren't voluntary, are they? I'm pretty sure if I ignored a subpoena, I'd be in jail sometime soon. How do they get away with this?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:56 AM
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14. I saw a video of Harry Reid the other day.
He looked and sounded so tired. He seemed so discouraged. He should be screaming. He should be angry. Instead he and Nancy Pelosi just allow themselves to be railroaded into anything.

As for the Blue Dog Democrats, why don't Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid just embarrass them into voting as they should. That is how the Republicans do things. It works for them. It would work just as well for us.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:57 AM
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17. Reid & Pelosi = Doormats
And that's the *best* of the explanations for their joint Epic Fail.
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obamaforme Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:26 PM
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11. Rove got away with it
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 09:27 PM by obamaforme
And then Palin and McCain suppose to be the agents of change. Transparency is not a republican strong suit.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:36 PM
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12. Do Democrats enforce them?
what's it going to take?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:18 PM
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13. It shouldn't be the job of Democrats to support subpoenas. The
Courts are responsible for that. When someone ignores a subpoena, the court sends the appropriate law officers to arrest the offender. That's the way it has always worked until recently. This has caused a major breakdown in the respect of the the Courts.

This much is clear. Republicans have NO intentions of obeying ANY laws that interfere with their
criminal enterprises. They only enforce laws used to either suppress or dominate their citizens or enemies.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:16 AM
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15. Yes....
This has been another episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:53 AM
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16. if they can even vaguely pretend that the subpoena is "political"
they just ignore it

they lie with impunity (although for the last few days a few in the corporate media have actually been holding them to a squishy standard of "truthiness")

they steal with impunity, just writing blank checks to their cronies for billions upon billions of dollars

they commit treason and destroy anyone who calls them on it
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:21 AM
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18. on Wiki...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 02:32 AM by imax2268
A subpoena (pronounced /səˈpiːnə/) is commonly defined as a written command to a person to testify before a court or be punished.

More accurately, a subpoena is the conditional threat of punishment made by a governmental authority. It is attached to a command, so that if the recipient does not do as commanded then he may be punished. Subpoenas are associated with common law legal systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpoena

(on edit: added link)
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:54 AM
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19. Yep. Arrogance embodied. They get to ignore subpoenas, all laws, the constitution...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 03:56 AM by Triana
..habeas corpus, the Geneva Conventions any and all treaties, human rights, animal rights, the TRUTH, the economy, and the environment.

Anything else ya wanna know? ;)

EDIT: to add the TRUTH - the thing Repigs spend the majority of their time ignoring.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:27 AM
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20. political citizens of the republic were above the law
Remember too that Plato (moron that he is) advocated governance from a small ruling class and the legislation of moral law to be imposed on the citizenry.
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:54 AM
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21. Republicans have gotten away with it for seven years, now they just thumb their noses at authority
The Republicans need a massive smack down, and the Obama Administration will do the smacking
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:31 AM
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22. And President Clinton is
:banghead: Why didn't he think of that.
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