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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:45 AM
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Limbaugh: "You could say liberals are aborting themselves out of the majority"
I would call him a disgusting, trough-feeding hog, but hogs don't deserve to be defamed like that. - OP's extra comment

from Media Matters:


Limbaugh: "You could say liberals are aborting themselves out of the majority"

On the March 12 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh commented on a speech by former Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA) in which Miller stated that Roe v. Wade has led to "too few people" being "produced" in the United States and therefore fewer people filling jobs or serving in the military by stating: "I would only have one small nitpick with former Senator Zeller over this: How many of these 45 million children who have been aborted would be Democrats, would be the offspring of Democrats? And as such, how many of them would have jobs? As such, how many of them would even think of joining the military?" He then said, "I know there are some Republican liberal babes in there that gone out and had abortions, too, but the vast majority of them are liberals," adding, "This way, if you look at the demographics of the future, you could say liberals are aborting themselves out of the majority, if current trends hold."

Limbaugh's comments came in response to a March 9 posting on The Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Political Insider weblog highlighting Miller's speech at a March 6 banquet for the Sav-A-Life Care Center, an anti-abortion counseling center in Macon, Georgia. The blog post noted that Miller said during the speech:

"Over 45 million since Roe v. Wade in 1973. If those 45 million children had lived, today they would be defending our country, they would be filling our jobs, they would be paying into Social Security," the former Georgia governor said. "Still, we watch as 3,700 babies are killed every single day in America. It is unbelievable that a nation under God would allow this."
....snip.....

I would only have one small nitpick with former Senator Zeller over this: How many of these 45 million children who have been aborted would be Democrats, would be the offspring of Democrats? And as such, how many of them would have jobs? As such, how many of them would even think of joining the military? I know they're some Republican liberal babes in there that gone out and had abortions, too, but the vast majority of them are liberals. This way if you look at the demographics of the future, you could say liberals are aborting themselves out of the majority if current trends hold. Everybody knows that's who's having the majority of these things. .....(more)

The complete piece is at: http://mediamatters.org/items/200703120006





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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:48 AM
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1. Utter bullshit
There are plenty of conservative women who've had abortions. To them the only moral abortion is their abortion.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:05 AM
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21. um, lol..
like there is a form at the time of the procedure that says are you a conservative or liberal? I'd like them to prove those statistics. What an ass.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:06 AM
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29. Exactly
And we'd also have to believe that there is genetic disposition to be liberal. Utter bullshit indeed.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:49 AM
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2. Wasn't there an arch-conservative anti-abortion Congressman
who paid for his daughter to get an abortion? I think it was several years back, but he shrugged off the hypocrisy charge by saying it was not against the law...
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:51 AM
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6. Was it Henry Hyde?
I remember something about this but don't recall the details.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:56 AM
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13. I think it may have been Hyde - who also
had an affair with a married woman while in his 40s and said it was a "youthful indiscretion"

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:49 AM
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3. Did he say that in between swallowing oxycontins?
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:49 AM
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4. Sounds like the fatman is
hitting the pills again
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:51 AM
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5. You know... I don't care what that gasbag has to say.... n/t
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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:51 AM
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7. Talking point
His talking point for a few weeks now has been "the democrats own defeat in Iraq" He says this all the time. Remember, say it enough people will believe it.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:52 AM
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8. So, being a liberal is a genetically inherited trait?
More crap logic from the RW hatemongers.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:52 AM
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9. Everybody knows thats who's having the majority of these
More empirical, unimpeachable "facts" from the drug addicted coward. Oh rush, sad, pathetic. Please rush share with this Mississippian who is having abortions in my state? Thousands and thousands of liberals? And why the need for DNA testing? So the children of liberals can find out who their baby's daddy is? Oh, and its liberals who won't join the military? limbaugh a liberal? cheney? hannity?

Thanks for the (limbaugh ain't good enough to be a pig) caveat.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:53 AM
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10. Hey Rush, how many Republicans didn't serve because of boils on their ass?
STFU.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:55 AM
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11. I have to laugh when I see,hear or read someone listening to russ'boy'
nothing personal intended here but my question is how do you do it, empty stomach maybe, drugs??? how.
when I hear his voice I become nauseated immediately


I thanks the ones who can to keep us abreast of what the 'boy' has to say though
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:36 AM
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25. Its the corporations that keep his BS on the airwaves
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:55 AM
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12. What a shame then that their front-runner for the nomination is pro-choice
and thought there should be public funding for abortions--BWAH!
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:56 AM
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14. You wish, pigboy!
Actually it's quite the opposite:
Safe, legal abortions, particularly for the poor (of which minorities that vote Democratic make up a disproportionate number), have become so difficult to obtain that they often continue the pregnancy to birth. Thereby increasing the number of Democrats into a majority.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:58 AM
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15. "The only moral abortion is my abortion"
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:58 AM by wicket
When the Anti-Choice Choose

In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers' own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy.

"I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers." (Physician, Australia)

"I've had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, 'You're not going to tell them, are you!?' When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn't want this to interfere with it." (Physician, Texas)

"In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the 'antis' by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular 'sidewalk counselor' went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter's situation had caused her to change her mind. 'I don't expect you to understand my daughter's situation!' she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to 'murder their babies.'" (Clinic escort, Massachusetts)

"We too have seen our share of anti-choice women, ones the counselors usually grit their teeth over. Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion. The nurse handled it by talking about all the carnage that went on before abortion was legalized and how fortunate she was to be receiving safe, professional care. However, this young woman continued to insist it was wrong and should be made illegal. Finally the nurse said, 'Well, I guess we won't be seeing you here again, not that you're not welcome.' Later on, another patient who had overheard this exchange thanked the nurse for her remarks." (Clinic Administrator, Alberta)

"We saw a woman recently who after four attempts and many hours of counseling both at the hospital and our clinic, finally, calmly and uneventfully, had her abortion. Four months later, she called me on Christmas Eve to tell me that she was not and never was pro-choice and that we failed to recognize that she was clinically depressed at the time of her abortion. The purpose of her call was to chastise me for not sending her off to the psych unit instead of the procedure room." (Clinic Administrator, Alberta)

"Recently, we had a patient who had given a history of being a 'pro-life' activist, but who had decided to have an abortion. She was pleasant to me and our initial discussion was mutually respectful. Later, she told someone on my staff that she thought abortion is murder, that she is a murderer, and that she is murdering her baby. So before doing her procedure, I asked her if she thought abortion is murder -- the answer was yes. I asked her if she thought I am a murderer, and if she thought I would be murdering her baby, and she said yes. But murder is a crime, and murderers are executed. Is this a crime? Well, it should be, she said. At that point, she became angry and hostile, and the summary of the conversation was that she regarded me as an abortion-dispensing machine, and how dare I ask her what she thinks. After explaining to her that I do not perform abortions for people who think I am a murderer or people who are angry at me, I declined to provide her with medical care. I do not know whether she found someone else to do her abortion." (Physician, Colorado)

"In 1973, after Roe v. Wade, abortion became legal but had to be performed in a hospital. That of course was changed later. For the first 'legal abortion day' I had scheduled five procedures. While scrubbing between cases, I was accosted by the Chief of the OB/Gyn service. He asked me, 'How many children are you going to kill today?' My response, out of anger, was a familiar vulgar retort. About three months later, this born-again Christian called me to explain that he was against abortion but his daughter was only a junior in high school and was too young to have a baby and he was also afraid that if she did have a baby she would not want to put it up for adoption. I told him he did not need to explain the situation to me. 'All I need to know', I said, 'is that SHE wants an abortion.' Two years later I performed a second abortion on her during her college break. She thanked me and pleaded, 'Please don't tell my dad, he is still anti-abortion.'" (Physician, Washington State)

"The sister of a Dutch bishop in Limburg once visited the abortion clinic in Beek where I used to work in the seventies. After entering the full waiting room she said to me, 'My dear Lord, what are all those young girls doing here?' 'Same as you', I replied. 'Dirty little dames,' she said." (Physician, The Netherlands)

"I had a patient about ten years ago who traveled up to New York City from South Carolina for an abortion. I asked her why she went such a long way to get the procedure. Her answer was that she was a member of a church group that didn't believe in abortion and she didn't want anyone to know she was having one. She planned to return to the group when she went back to South Carolina." (Physician, New York)

"I once had a German client who greatly thanked me at the door, leaving after a difficult 22-week abortion. With a gleaming smile, she added: 'Und doch sind Sie ein Mörderer.' ('And you're still a murderer.')" (Physician, The Netherlands)

"My first encounter with this phenomenon came when I was doing a 2-week follow-up at a family planning clinic. The woman's anti-choice values spoke indirectly through her expression and body language. She told me that she had been offended by the other women in the abortion clinic waiting room because they were using abortion as a form of birth control, but her condom had broken so she had no choice! I had real difficulty not pointing out that she did have a choice, and she had made it! Just like the other women in the waiting room." (Physician, Ontario)

"A 21 year old woman and her mother drove three hours to come to their appointment for an abortion. They were surprised to find the clinic a 'nice' place with friendly, personable staff. While going over contraceptive options, they shared that they were Pro-Life and disagreed with abortion, but that the patient could not afford to raise a child right now. Also, she wouldn't need contraception since she wasn't going to have sex until she got married, because of her religious beliefs. Rather than argue with them, I saw this as an opportunity for dialogue, and in the end, my hope was that I had planted a 'healing seed' to help resolve the conflict between their beliefs and their realities." (Physician, Washington State)

"I had a 37 year old woman just yesterday who was 13 weeks. She said she and her husband had been discussing this pregnancy for 2-3 months. She was strongly opposed to abortion, 'but my husband is forcing me to do it.' Naturally, I told her that no one could force her into an abortion, and that she had to choose whether the pregnancy or her husband were more important. I told her I only wanted what was best for her, and I would not do the abortion unless she agreed that it was in her best interest. Once she was faced with actually having to voice her own choice, she said 'Well, I made the appointment and I came here, so go ahead and do it. It's what's best.' At last I think she came to grips with the fact that it really was her decision after all." (Physician, Nevada)

"We have anti-choice women in for abortions all the time. Many of them are just naive and ignorant until they find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy. Many of them are not malicious. They just haven't given it the proper amount of thought until it completely affects them. They can be judgmental about their friends, family, and other women. Then suddenly they become pregnant. Suddenly they see the truth. That it should only be their own choice. Unfortunately, many also think that somehow they are different than everyone else and they deserve to have an abortion, while no one else does." (Physician, Washington State)

Although few studies have been made of this phenomenon, a study done in 1981 (1) found that 24% of women who had abortions considered the procedure morally wrong, and 7% of women who'd had abortions disagreed with the statement, "Any woman who wants an abortion should be permitted to obtain it legally." A 1994/95 survey (2,3) of nearly 10,000 abortion patients showed 18% of women having abortions are born-again or Evangelical Christians. Many of these women are likely anti-choice. The survey also showed that Catholic women have an abortion rate 29% higher than Protestant women. A Planned Parenthood handbook on abortion notes that nearly half of all abortions are for women who describe themselves as born-again Christian, Evangelical Christian, or Catholic. (4)


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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:59 AM
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20. .
Wow, such stunning hypocrisy. But what do you expect...
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:48 AM
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26. I know many fundies like that
They also think homosexuality is a sin because its in the bible, but have problem with premarital sex. Its easy to give moral judgement when they don't apply to you.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:54 AM
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27. Stunning....
"A Planned Parenthood handbook on abortion notes that nearly half of all abortions are for women who describe themselves as born-again Christian, Evangelical Christian, or Catholic" (emphasis mine)

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:05 AM
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28. Yup
Rush has no freakin' clue what he's talking about. He's pulling shit out of his ass as always.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:58 AM
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16. this 45 million number
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:59 AM by tibbiit
did they pull it out of their ass?

Where did this number come from? I dont believe it is in anyway this high.
tib

edit
No one ever questions this number.
We just accept it as CW, but I bet its as phony as all other RW talking point numbers.
QUESTION EVERYTHING
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Pugee Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:23 AM
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22. That number had to come out of the air.
45 million is over 1 million a year. We have four generations alive today for the first time in history. The biggest, the Millennials,(80 million) born 1981-2001 had less than 4 million born a year. The other generation, born since 1973 is the Generation X with only 59 million and they go from 1965 until 1980. So what that 45 million says is more than one of every 5 preganancies were aborted. Does anyone believe that?

BTW I am wondering what jobs they would be filling. There certainly aren't ANY around here.

As a side note, these stats are from a very interesting article in the Missouri retirement newsletter wondering why Baby Boomers retiring is the big worry about SS when there are more Millennials than Baby Boomers (77 Million) and plenty to pay into the system. They also cite that one of 3 BBs has NO retirement and many of them will keep working. What the administration is blaming coming loss of SS for is NOT the BB getting older.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:01 AM
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17. You could say that Limbaugh is a drug addled, pedophile, comedian....
and you'd be partly correct. "You could say" anything at all. That wouldn't mean it was true. Limbaugh once again pushes the boundaries of taste and good sense to it's outer reaches. Why do people still listen to this gas-bag? :shrug: He's not held accountable for a single thing he says. He constructs lies from whole cloth and presents them as fact. Yet people don't question him or challenge him on anything he says. His listeners accept everything he says as truth, like he's the one and only source for facts in our country.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? :banghead: How many brain-dead assholes are there in our country? Why can't these people think for themselves? Why must they be told what to think? :banghead:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:19 AM
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18. Didn't Bill Bennett suggest
that if all black babies were aborted the crime rate would drop?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:47 AM
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19. They would be filling our prisons, they would be dying from a lack of social services,
they would be heading our unemployment and welfare lines as well. What frickin' idiots!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:24 AM
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23. Who gives a fuck what limpballs has to say? RW trash that listen to him.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:34 AM
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24. Right, like the population is divided into two races
Are liberals the only ones who make the next generation of liberals?

And Republicans beget only more Republicans?

What utter "hogwash".
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:07 AM
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30. Fortunately for the human race Rush has no children.
3 marriages and no children? I wonder how many abortions his wives had.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:04 PM
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31. kick
:kick:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:08 PM
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32. Wishful thinking by the gopper propaganda puppet as usual.




The November elections proved what the voters think about the rethuglican potty.

They are on their way down the toilet and OxyRush is in desperation mode.





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