Reagan's other child with Nancy, Patti Davis has a question for

[rebel with a cause]

Hillary. It appears this week in her opinion piece in Newsweek. Don't know how or why, but the children of Ron and Nancy are both liberal and disagreed with their fathers political views. :shrug:

Sorry if this has been posted before. I didn't see it if it has.
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What Hillary Should Say Now
An open letter to the almost-nominee.

Patti Davis

Newsweek Web Exclusive
Updated: 4:32 PM ET Sep 5, 2008

Dear Hillary,

Where are you? We haven't heard from you since your strong and eloquent speech at the Democratic National Convention. You might be taking a well-deserved vacation--certainly you must need one after all those arduous months campaigning. But we need to hear from you right now. We need your voice to speak for all the women (and there are many of us) who are angry at the assumption that, just because Sarah Palin is female, we will fall in line behind her.
We need you to make clear that women do not automatically judge someone because of gender; we are more concerned with the quality of their character and the depth and breadth of their experience.

We do not see rudeness and snarkiness and sarcasm as admirable; in fact, most women teach their children not to treat others in that manner, and they tend to steer clear of adults who never learned that lesson.

We respect the right of other women to raise and educate their children the way they see fit. We also respect their right to make their own child-bearing decisions with no interference from the rest of us. We ask for that same respect in return. We don't want the government in our homes or our wombs. It is, in the simplest sense, a respect for privacy, a word vehemently used by the Republican Party in reference to Sarah Palin's family. But it's not just families in the public eye who deserve privacy; we all do.

<snip>

Hillary, you have a more prominent voice than the rest of us. We need to hear your voice reminding people that women are smart and perceptive, and perfectly capable of doing research on a candidate who chose to be snippy rather than informative about her political record.

Many of us are frightened about the future of this country. You once said, with tears in your eyes, that running for president was very personal to you--that where America goes from here was deeply personal. It's personal to us also. Please help us communicate that putting a woman on a presidential ticket is only a good thing if it's the right woman.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157376

[K8-EEE]

1. I heard Hillary was going to be scheduled in FL?

I think that's an excellent place to start.

[rebel with a cause]

9. yes, but I heard also that she will be going after mccain.

Which is fine, but maybe she could go after them both, after all they are soul mates. Perhaps she could mention how mccain can't keep his eyes off palin's behind. You know, warn cindy m about she (cindy) should know about cheating husbands, since she married one. Hillary could even do a dig at herself here to get women more on her side. (not throwing stones at Hillary, I have walked in her shoes on this) ;)

[Whoa_Nelly]

14. Yes, in FL campaigning for Obama, and then speaking in Kissimmee

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2008/09/clinton-to-talk.html

Clinton to talk to machinists at Lake Buena Vista
posted by Orlando Sentinel on Sep 5, 2008 11:44:28 AM
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Hillary Clinton is coming to Lake Buena Vista Monday to talk to the national convention of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. The 2 p.m. appearance is open to the media -- but not the public.
The IAM was one of the first unions to endorse Clinton's presidential candidacy, and it's expected to consider this week a new endorsement for the general election. Presumably, Clinton will encourage them to give the nod to fellow Democrat Barack Obama.
The Obama campaign has announced she'll be campaigning for the Illinois senator in Tampa on Monday as well. No details yet.



http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2008/09/clinton-coming.html

Clinton coming to Kissimmee on Monday
posted by Orlando Sentinel on Sep 6, 2008 2:57:13 PM
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U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton will spend the next two days in Florida campaigning for Barack Obama, including an appearance Monday morning at an event in Kissimmee that's open to the public. She's in Tampa on Sunday.

Her Kissimmee appearance is at noon Monday in the Kissimmee Room of The Exhibit Building at Osceola Heritage park, 1901 Chief Osceola Trail. It's free and open to the public, but tickets are required.

To get a ticket, go to the Obama campaign's Orlando Field Office at 1011 East Colonial Drive today from 5 to 8 p.m. or Sunday from noon to 9 p.m. Osceola residents can go to the Kissimmee field office at 908 Mabbette St. during those same times.

[barbtries]

2. love this:

"most women teach their children not to treat others in that manner, and they tend to steer clear of adults who never learned that lesson."

good letter; i am anticipating seeing hillary on the campaign trail ripping palin a new one.

edited to add that keeps the campaign both clean and effective.

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Hillary is exactly the right person

to go after Sarah. That should completely mute any "sexism" cries.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Yessssssssssssssss

[Fluffdaddy]

5. You go girl

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

6. Patti and Ron are really good people

Obviously Nancy and Ronald Sr. did one thing right: they raised a fine pair of children who became thoughtful and admirable adults. That says something about them.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Nancy, Ron and Patti all vote for Obama.

[rebel with a cause]

7. I have no doubt about Ron and Patti.

Nancy will have to decide between the party and doing the right thing.

[tomg]

10. I've often felt the same way. nt

[KharmaTrain]

8. The Hidden Elephants At The RNC

I posted a question about this during the RNC...and as usual, it dropped like a 16 ton boulder here.

They showed a Raygun tribute and afterwards moved along...no Nancy or any Reagan family member was there. I found out Ron was covering the convention for Air America and Michael is in trouble for threatening Paulbots with violence.

I'd love to see the Obama campaign roll out a spot with her, Susan Eisenhower, Susan Ford (also an Obama supporter)...

[rebel with a cause]

12. Michael is a republican tool.

He is Ron's adopted son with Jane Wyman. Ron and Jane divorced over politics. Was it just because of his ambition, or was it like I heard before that they disagreed on politics altogether? Does anyone here know the answer to that?

I thought she was probably more liberal than him, but now I don't know since it was the child that she raised that followed in his footsteps. Strange.

[KharmaTrain]

15. Many Explanations Out There

By the early 50's, Raygun's star had fallen in Hollywood...he was only able to get parts in B-rated flicks playing opposite chimps. She was big box office and the bloom had fallen off this rose. Rumors are that Ronnie was messing around at the time and also that he had fallen out with the Union (which he was a member of) and started to shill for corporations...and how he met Nancy (daddy was a rich GOOP fatcat)...and that was the end.

BTW...Michael was adopted...never flesh & blood. He was never close with his father or the rest of his family. The only one who kept any contact was Maureen.

Michael has used his name to milk radio gigs...with poor results and now is being sued for threatening violence against Ron Paulbots. A real loser. My favorite image is of daddy's funeral...there was Nancy, Ron & Patti hugging while Michael was left on his own. There were also stories of how the Great Expectorator didn't even recognize him as his own kid.

Cheers...

[mitchtv]

17. didn't he serve as a quisling for Hoover

while president of SAG?

[KharmaTrain]

18. Never Really Any Proof

There have been reports he outted screen writers for the HUAC...the McCarthy hearings, but I've never seen it substantiated. He did testify (and brought him to the attention of the corporates like GE)...that all but ended his movie and union career.

[rebel with a cause]

20. I always felt sorry for Michael because it did seem that Ronnie

didn't care anything about him. He was basically Jane's. My sympathy ended the night I heard him on some show talking that RW thrash. I imagine he is still trying to earn Ronnie's love but that is not enough reason for what he does. He is a pretty big idiot.

[Critters2]

25. I've always thought the whole RW shilling was to win his father's approval.

I see it as some kind of identity issue for him, just because of ways I've heard him talk about it. He thinks he's carrying on his father's name. I think that's very telling. Ron and Patti have strong enough self-images that they can question their father's values, the Repug party, etc. I think Michael is working out some stuff.

So, at some level, I feel sorry for him.

[kskiska]

39. From Reagan's Diary:

Monday, Nov. 19, 1984
"One other sour note on Thanksgiving had to do with Mike R. He blew up at something on TV news based on an inteview Nancy had given. He called me and when I tried to straighten him out he screamed at me about having been adopted and hung up on me."

Monday, Nov. 26, 1984
"To top the day off, I called Mike R. We talked for half an hour and I'm more than ever convinced that he has a real emotional problem that is making him paranoid."

Thursday, Nov. 29, 1984
"Another call from Mike. He is a really disturbed young man. I've contacted his minister and believe maybe we can get through to Mike…"

[janet118]

11. Nancy and Ronald Reagan disliked John McCain . . .

Both were very friendly with his first wife, Carol. The were disgusted with the way he treated her.

[rebel with a cause]

13. But they also had ties with cindy mccain's family.

Politics make strange bedfellows, and I think for the Reagans, mccain was just that.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. I thought Nancy had a close relationship with CAROL, not Cindy McCain.

In fact, the rumor was that after John McCain cheated on Carol, she and Ronald didn't speak to McCain for a long time. They tried to encourage the McCains to repair the marriage but of course Ole Johnny wanted the rich blonde on his arm.

Why did Nancy wait so long to finally endorse John? We all know that the Repukes hate this man.

[madrchsod]

27. carol worked for the reagans in the white house

i can`t remember what post they gave her

[rebel with a cause]

29. It was said on a mccain bio the other night that the

Reagans had a close relationship with cindy mccain's family and that is what kept them connected to mccain after the divorce. That is the only way I knew that. That does not mean that Nancy liked the man, only that politically they were tied to him. cindy's family was the reason he went as far as he has with money and connections.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. Cindy or Carol?

[rebel with a cause]

35. cindy.

Carol was friends with the Reagans on her own. I don't know how they handled that and the relationship with cindy's parents.

[Virginia Dare]

42. That makes sense, as her father was a bigwig in the repub party..

in Arizona. Just goes to show that politics is rarely personal.

[cali]

16. Patti and Ron; products of The John Thomas Dye School and

Auntie Catharine and Uncle John. My mother always says that's where Ronald and Nancy went wrong. Hard to imagine a more liberal environment than the JTD School in the sixties and seventies.

[rebel with a cause]

19. That's the problem with a liberal education.

:rofl:

[cali]

21. Yep. I was there. And even though my parents were dems and pretty liberal

the John Thomas Dye School was undoubtedly hugely formative for me. (Patti was one of my best friends in 3rd and 4th grade). The Reagans, btw, weren't right wing nuts at that time.

[rebel with a cause]

30. ahhh, interesting.

I wonder when they went to the right.

[madrchsod]

23. ronald reagan would be very interested in mr obama as a man and politician

. i would hazard a guess and say he`d vote for him......hmmmmm....maybe he`ll endorse obama!


hillary needs to come out and put the caribou barbie in her place...back to alaska

[Critters2]

24. "Many of us are frightened about the future of this country."

Yes, we are.

From Reagan's daughter, this is important. Thank you, Patti! :hi:

[madrchsod]

26. i think ronny would feel the same way......

he hated the bush klan and mccain and religious zealots....he was`t very religious as a youth and later in life. what`s ironic is that his mother`s church here in dixon had a pastor who was one of the most out spoken leaders for peace/justice.

[rebel with a cause]

31. Hello Illinois

Yeah, Ronnie changed along the way. Maybe he liked John Wayne too much. ;)

[madrchsod]

34. hi! see ya are from the south.....lol.

my dad knew ronny and told me a lot about him...my dad worked for reagan`s dad when he was the director of the cwa/wpa

[rebel with a cause]

37. Yes, I am from the south

and I see you are from the north. Interesting to know people, or know people who know people that become famous isn't it? There are quite a few famous people from my old hometown, but I didn't know them personally. May know their family somewhat but not them personally. Oh well, I met Barack. :9

[Virginia Dare]

43. He's the one who opened the door and embraced the fundie right..

I'm sure he would have come to regret it now though, the Reagan conservatives have lost control of the ship and the legacy.

[chelaque liberal]

28. What was the recent Ron Jr remark?

[rebel with a cause]

33. He was talking about how much his mother liked Obama.

I have forgotten what else he might have said. My short term memory is damaged, ask me in a couple of years and I'll tell you all about it. ;)

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

36. Ron also said that Palin's baby was "getting passed around like a bong"

while she was babbling to the KKKrowd at the KKkonvention. :rofl:

[glowing]

38. Really, I think most women can speak for themselves.. We know that we cannot

just replace one for the other. Most are applled at this thing McCain produced.. My mother said, besides being highly unqualified for the position, she sounds like a snarling bitch.. What was McCain thinking.. I'm really glad that he didn't make it in 2000. His judgement is worse than Bush and that's saying a lot.

[samsingh]

40. bravo

[samsingh]

41. bravo

[LuckyLib]

44. Patti has always been one step behind, echoing the voices of other women, but getting a forum

due to her last name. I wasn't impressed then, am not now. Want to read really original thinking/writing that sums it up? Check out Gloria Steinem and Jamie Lee Curtis.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-steinem4-2008sep04,0,7915118.story

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-lee-curtis/debate-not-relate_b_123491.html