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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:09 PM
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Theocrats to Pray for McCain's Death
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/3/11483/34706

The more theocratic elements of the Religious Right have a disturbing habit, (more like a practice) of invoking "imprecatory prayer" -- a call for God to literally pour his wrath down on those they consider to be his enemies. Last year, for example, Rev. Wiley Drake, then a Second Vice President of the Southern Baptist Convention made news when he called on his followers to pray for God to smite members of the staff of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. (Drake was angry that the organization had reported Drake to the IRS for endorsing Mike Huckabee on church stationary, among other apparent abuses of his church's 501(c))(3) tax-exemption.)
The most recent target of theoractic imprecations is none other than Republican presidential candidate John McCain. They hope that an act of God will make Sarah Palin president.


topic: Theocratic Leadership

But before we get to McCain, let's get a little background: In the summer of 2004, Townhall columnist and radio talk show host Doug Giles declared it is time to call the wrath of God down on the enemies of Christianity, namely Islam.

Radical Islam is incorrigible, period. So face it and embrace it. We are not going to convert or appease these cats. We have nothing they want. There is nothing to negotiate. They want us exterminated. Capisce?
That said, what do we, Christians in particular, do when faced with an implacable radical enemy? Just sit around sing "Kum Ba Yah" and hope these bad guys will leave us alone? That's what a lot of five-watt light bulb, spiritually neutered believers are doing. Just sittin' around hopin' and wishin' or worse yet, ignoring the viable millennial threat of militant Islam. I, for one, will not take a passive stance against this aggressive enemy. You cannot be lame and win this game with these guys. So, as a Christian, I suggest the following:

After a short, brutal, list he launches into the main point:


Five: As people of faith, dust off and use what's afforded to the believer within the Old and New Testaments, namely the imprecatory prayers.
What is an imprecatory prayer?

It is a prayer asking God to crush a clear enemy of His, an enemy which is an aggressive adversary of freedom and peace loving people.

Well, that is quite a standard, and one that is arguably prone to abuse. That said, at least two people have written in recent days that hope that McCain/Palin are elected so that they can pray for God to crush John McCain and to elevate Sarah Palin to her rendevous with destiny.

Antiabortion militant and all-round theocratic activist Jay Rogers of Florida, whose blog is called The Forerunner, writes:

Pray for John McCain's salvation and speedy death. (Google The Forerunner's articles on Imprecatory Prayer if you think this is harsh.)
And then there is this guy, a self-described Christian Reconstructionist whose blog handle is Ixion, and is apparently from Tennessee:


McCain's VP choice, Sarah Palin, suddenly made me want to vote for him, as long as the LORD smites him while he's in office. She's consistently conservative on all the issues, and if she's good enough for The Forerunner, she's good enough for me. The Forerunner agrees with me that McCain must be smitten, as well, so I'm obviously not alone in my viewpoints.
After a long response to a well-researched Daily Kos diary by Dogemperor, discussing Palin's religious history and raises some important concerns, Ixion comes back around to his main point.


May the LORD cause McCain/Palin to win the White House in 2008, and then smite the godless McCain in favor of Palin. Amen.
He then concludes his post about Palin in a most unusual fashion:


Anyone that can earn the approval of Phyllis Schlafly and the Texas GOP (the platform of which can be found HERE) is a winner in my book. Anyone that can win the support of Focus on the Family and Concerned Women of America is a winner in my book. Anyone that can earn the wrath of Christian hating Frederick Clarkson is not only a winner in my book, but deserves to be put into a heavenly hall of fame. Finally, anyone that makes the Kostards piss their pants is a winner in my book.
Anyway, the definition of God's enemies, as we have seen here, can be highly subjective. To Wiley Drake, it is staffers at Americans United; to Doug Giles, it is all of Isalm. To Jay Rogers and Ixion, it is the "godless" John McCain. From this sampling, it is probably fair to assume that God may have a lot of incoming. But what if God is not impressed? What will these men do then?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:16 PM
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1. I can assure you that God, if there is a God, is totally unimpressed with theocrats.
That's why from a Christian perspective Jesus did not pick out theologians and religious scholars to be his disciples. It's too bad that so many people who call themselves Christians are so unfamiliar with who Jesus was. He would certainly reject them as followers.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:12 AM
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17. Get the popcorn these morons are gonna start dropping like flies
:rofl:

Prayers like this always backfire, case in point the dumb dick who prayed for torrential rains of biblcal proportions to fall during the DNC

I am not saying God did, I am gonna say Karma! she's bitch and she can take a female pitbull with lipstick
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:27 PM
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2. Boy if they offer him hemlock he better spill it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:27 PM
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3. Frightening by dint of the reality of the possibility.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:33 PM
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4. I would think this might make McSame vote for Obama.
McSame will live longer if he is not elected...while his early demise may be all but guaranteed if he is elected.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:38 PM
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7. I like the way you think.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 PM
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11. Thank you. Thank you very much.
:thumbsup: :hi:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:33 PM
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5. Can someone please charge them with soliciting a murder for hire?
They wanna have God "whack" somebody???

:hide:

Doug D.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:39 PM
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8. Or hospitalize them for having delusions of grandeur?
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:35 PM
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6.  It's amazing that this juvenile attitude towards spiruality...
still has any traction in the 21st century. The optimist in me keeps hoping for the human race to evolve beyond this type of childish magical thinking, as John Lennon sang:

"Imagine there's no heaven, I wonder if you can
No Hell below us, a brotherhood of man"

It's so freaking pathetic, as if an all-powerful, omni-potent, omniscient super-being (if it actually existed) had nothing better to do than smite targets as directed some lowly human petitioner.

Sheesh.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:40 PM
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9. God is not a short order cook. These people will be real surprised if they keep it up.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:14 AM
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14. ! .....:-) (Love it).
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 PM
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10. Because it worked so well in praying for a thunderstorm during the
Obama acceptance speech in Denver.

These people are lunatics.

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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:47 PM
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13. Yes, they are lunatics
they are beyond the lunatic. Sane society would not tolerate their presence save in rubber rooms at places where the nuts hunt the squirrels. But there are a lot of them, and they see the only way of redeeming their sorry, empty, hateful lives is destroying the world in hopes that they will be ruptured, sorry, raptured. More frightening, they vote even though they are incapable of rational thought. Put these people in a round room and tell them to shit in the corner and their heads would literally explode.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:02 AM
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21. Oh, they got their rain... God just has a sick sense of humor.
At least, I have to hope God has a sense of humor....
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 PM
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12. Yeah, that rain thing worked real well.
Sick!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:18 AM
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15. Oh no! John McCain is a victim!? Again!? When will these attacks stop!? n/t
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:58 AM
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16. The truth is that God is waiting for the results of the Troopergate investigation to decide (n/t)
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:10 AM
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18. Her Wasilla Bible Church wants to "pray away the gay"...
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/USElection/2008/09/05/6676926-ap.html

~snip~

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.

“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” said an insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed since she was a child.

Palin’s conservative Christian views have energized that part of the Republican electorate, which was lukewarm to John McCain’s candidacy before he named her as his vice-presidential choice. She is anti-abortion, opposing exceptions for rape and incest, and opposes gay marriage and spousal rights for gay couples.

Focus on the Family, a national Christian fundamentalist organization, is conducting the “Love Won Out” Conference in Anchorage, about 50 kilometres from Wasilla.







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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:32 AM
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19. How very pro-life of them
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:55 AM
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20. Maybe we should write to Cindy, and ask if she knows what John has unleashed.
These are the same fundy-nutcases who stalked doctors and even killed one a few years ago.. they think they will bet extra credit in heaven by hastening the rapture..

By choosing her, he has ultimately put his life in danger ...

The North Vietnamese were never the zealots that these crazy people are..
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toddGA Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:15 AM
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22. If they're gonna go all old-school with the lingo
e.g.: "McCain must be smitten."

they could at least get it right. the correct word here is "smote," (sometimes "smited")not "smitten." though it may just be a freudian slip; we all know he's smitten with sarah already.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:16 AM
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23. Warm, ignorant clay like Sarah Palin is attractive to evil men.
Let's suppose you're the evil bastards that pull the strings behind the most corrupt elements of the GOP/Military Industrial complex. Do you prefer John the Maverick McCain, or that warm, ignorant, easily malleable chunk of clay called Sarah Palin?
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