I'm sorry, I just don't believe that people love Sarah Palin.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

Why would they? She's sarcastic, biting, and highly unqualified. Why has the media promoted this line? I don't know anybody who even watched her speech; I've never heard her name mentioned at my job. What or who is behind this bs?
I don't really believe that we have a democracy and I don't really believe that our votes matter but sometimes I allow myself to think it just might be true and that things can change and then I see what is obviously a set up like Palin and I fall back to what I know in my heart; we have no say in this country. Someone somewhere makes all the decisions and laughs at us every four years.
If people are this dumb we deserve to be treated like sheep.

[burythehatchet]

1. she's a media creation, but a very dangerous one.

[WA98296]

2. I agree, but the media will try their to do whatever they can to raise ratings.

[malaise]

3. She is like every other media invention

It's not love - it's mere curiosity

[DesertFlower]

4. some people do love her.

IMO they are gullible, racist fools.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

5. They'd have loved anyone McDick picked

simply because they need to believe, and can't admit that a black man is better than they are.

And he is.

And they know it.

[DesertFlower]

7. my husband keeps saying the same thing.

people cannot handle the fact that obama or any black person is smarter than they are.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

13. Exactly

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[DesertFlower]

15. it's sad, isn't it?

my hairdresser told me tuesday that she won't vote for obama because he's black. when i left the salon i cried. i don't think i can go back to her.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

18. I got a worse one

My good friend, whose wife is an RN in an Emergency Room, told him - a rabid Obama supporter - that she could never vote for a black man because of the people she's seen in the ER.

He's still reeling from that one.

If my hairdresser were really good, I think maybe I'd go back to her.

No, you know, no, I couldn't do it. And I sure wouldn't blame you if you didn't.

Racism isn't usually that directly expressed. Now let's watch and see the dresses it dons to disguise itself.

"I don't know what his agenda is."

"There's something about him that makes me uncomfortable."

Stuff like that.

[DesertFlower]

23. when i first started going to this

hairdresser, i told her i was an obama supporter and she said "you are? he's going to be assassinated". i just hired a cleaning girl a few weeks ago. i had MSNBC blasting on 2 tvs. i said "i hope you don't mind my politics". she asked who i was voting for. when i said Obama, she looked shocked and mentioned the assassination. that's a clue for me.

the problem is i live in arizona. it seems the people who were raised here seem to be a bit "weird". we have a very small black population. makes me kind of wonder if they've ever known a black person or had one for a friend. i know when we first moved here my husband was shocked with what he heard people saying about the mexicans.

i just feel really sad.

[bdamomma]

25. makes her feeling uncomfortable?

maybe because he is articulate and knows how to talk, and wants to do something to help Americans. God, what is wrong with these people.........sigh

[samuraiguppy]

46. wtf could she

have possibly seen in the ER that made her hate all AA people?

[bdamomma]

24. this nation has not grown up yet. sad.

weird my husband (who is black) said Americans will never vote for a black man or a woman. I would love to prove him wrong in November.

[DesertFlower]

28. my husband who is also an obama

supporter says this country is about 50 years away from electing a black man. if we can't get obama (who IMO transcends race) elected i fear that our husbands are right.

[OneGrassRoot]

11. And, that is exactly what makes them dangerous...

the ones who adore her, knowing WHO she is and what she stands for.

I'm surrounded by them, I'm seeing it live, in Technicolor. They are TERRIFIED, which makes them dangerous.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

12. I am with you

And I am, every day, fighting down the despair I am already feeling over having this election stolen from us.

We haven't seen anything yet, in terms of the depths of the racism in our society. You think you're scared now?

Wait.

[OneGrassRoot]

19. That's why I feel so strongly it needs to be confronted...

force it to be exposed. I mean, these people are PROUD OF BEING RACIST (as you well know). I've written it repeatedly today, about them being proud of "calling a spade a spade," dissing me and others for being too politically correct (i.e., "a liberal pussy/wimp").

So, I'm calling them on it. When they spout about him being "muslim" or say "it's his name," or any of the other lies they've actively been spreading for months, I say, "Come on, why don't you just say you don't like him and don't want him to be president because he's BLACK? You've talked about this your whole life, why are you backing down from it now? Why are you being so POLITICALLY CORRECT?"

That gets them. Agitates the shit out of them.

Then the truth comes out.

And the truth is they are TERRIFIED he will "get back at the white people."

Yep, they are dangerous and this type of bigotry can't be allowed to continue to fester for the sake of "strategy."

They aren't only "afraid" of black people. They're afraid of anyone who isn't white and Christian and openly (even if falsely) heterosexual.

Palin leads the way...she is their way-show-er. That's why she is dangerous.

Truth and transparency. That's my mission. :)

For what it's worth.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

21. Good for you!

I've been doing my part, much as you have. Never let up on the bastards. Today, a friend of mine told me that he actually had a racist friend of his - he's been pounding reality on her - say that she could imagine voting for Obama.

Eternal vigilance, indeed.

Good for you!

[progdonkey]

6. she has a relatively high favorability rating...

It's something like 60%, last I heard. Of course, this just means that the people polled likely haven't heard all the new crap that's being dug up on an hourly basis, and when people don't really know someone, I think they err on saying the view someone favorably than unfavorably. Just as a matter of being polite. ("She hasn't made me hate her, yet.")

Couple that with a room full (err... half-full) of drooling GOP True Believers cheering her, and that gives the Media enough grounds to say "EVERYONE LOVES HER!!!"

[Blue_In_AK]

27. The latest poll in Alaska

shows her back up in the 80s, but the pollster, Ivan Moore, isn't always on target. But the sarcastic, mean side of her is a new thing that we hadn't seen up here, at least not in public. It's been shocking, really.

http://www.anchoragepress.com/site/basicarticle.asp?ID=823

[GoesTo11]

8. Because of her baby.

America treats life like a TV show. They feel protective of her baby. She claims to be protective of the baby. They love her.

[TroglodyteScholar]

9. My parents don't like her at all...

...and they're evangelical Bush loyalists. When I brought her up (I usually don't talk politics with them), they were like "hmph..." and didn't say anything.

She's offputting to EVERYONE...it's just that the high-profile Republican politicians and operatives living in their little bubble don't realize it yet.

[Blue_In_AK]

36. You should be grateful that she's wearing

her "offputting" persona and not the likeable Sarah that she's presented to us over the past two years. Just goes to show you never know what's lurking beneath the surface.

[elfin]

10. Oh yes, they do -

"She is a breath of fresh air" stated by college educated Rethug geezers who should know better.

"She is a real person" stated by my contractor/handyman who is smart, but not college educated. He is congenial guy and a hunter and is enchanted with McCain's "experience" and now is in heat over Caribou Barbie. He just doesn't get it - just like the "low information" voters (as described by Ed Schultz in today's program). As long as both groups are glued to FOX, they will not be swayed.

They hate any Dem more than they are turned off by her incompetence and shrillness and McCain's lies. So sad.

We are dependent on a HUGE turnout of the young and informed.

[Lex]

14. My 65 year old southern white mom definitely does NOT like Palin.

My mom is probably what they call a "swing voter" and she watched some of both the Democratic and the Republican Nat'l Convention.

She's firmly in the Obama/Biden camp after seeing Palin's speech.

[OneGrassRoot]

20. That's been an interesting observation of mine over the last week...

age.

People over 60 or so tend to see through the crap, even if they're Republican.

It's the age group affected by the Rush Limbaugh's of the world and the whole Moral Majority movement who are the most brainwashed and narrow-minded (strike that...they have no mind...they are sponges absorbing others' hatred and lies).

[DesertFlower]

29. i'm 66 -- my husband is 60.

my nieces are 25 and 27 -- both voted for obama in the primaries. my granddaughter is 28 -- a born again christian -- she's an obama supporter. her husband (age 37) likes him but is bothered by the pro-choice, pro-gay civil unions. we don't know which way he'll go.

[OneGrassRoot]

33. Nice! Thank you for sharing that. :)

Especially about your granddaughter.

I find the whole religious aspect fascinating (and infuriating). For example, I'm in NC and the majority (not all) of the fundamentalist Southern Baptists here (and I'm not sure exactly which denominations fit under that category...Assembly of God is one) feel other Christians are heathens for not believing EXACTLY as they do. Catholics are DEFINITELY heathens and not Christian at all, in their minds.

So, I wonder if the "born again" wording applies to a specific denomination?

Sorry, I'm getting tired and confused...lol.

[DesertFlower]

35. i don't remember the church

she goes to. i did ask her if they talk about the candidates. she said they don't. did say that before the primaries they had something posted on the bulletin board about each of the candidates. seemed to be just general information.

i think "born again" applies to many christians. my granddaughter was raised catholic but changed in her 20s. she has an interesting background. her mother was jewish when she was born -- then converted to catholicism when steph was 7. that's when she had steph baptized. so steph teases her mom. says "we were the chosen people and you changed". BTW. her mom is my ex daughter in law.


edited for spelling.

[OneGrassRoot]

40. Interesting background indeed! LOL n/t

[DesertFlower]

41. my whole family is dysfunctional.

i could write a book, but no one would believe me.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

38. "Born again" replies to a range of denominations usually referred to as

"evangelical." They say that you're not really a Christian unless you can point to a specific conversion experience. Anyone of any denomination can be an evangelical, but they predominate in the Baptist and "free" churches that claim to be "non-denominational."

[OneGrassRoot]

39. Thank you. :) n/t

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

16. Everyone in my office is ranting and raving about her.

[ChazII]

31. Folks where I work are

raving about her, too.

[Arugula Latte]

32. In a negative way, I hope.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

44. Sorry, no.

[MadrasT]

17. My fundie sister with 4 children likes her

because "she wears her hair just like me". :puke:

My Dem parents are going off the deep end. We seriously don't know how this mutated creature got into our family. She's my sister and all, but, sheesh :eyes:.

[bdamomma]

26. I guess some people have very very short memories

we are in this mess because he is someone we could have beer with. Stupidity runs rampart sad very sad.

[DesertFlower]

42. i have a sister who

had 3 abortions when she was in college. guess who she liked? Huckabee. said he seemed like a nice guy. said she votes for the person not the party. her 2 daughters who i mentioned in another post both voted for obama. her present husband #3 is a republican.

go figure.

[bdamomma]

22. There is something behind her selection they are rallying

Christian fundis, they are more like a cult. American Taliban is correct.

[DesertFlower]

30. they want to turn this country

into a christian theocracy.

[petronius]

34. I suspect that all those 'disaffected' Rs who claimed they would "never vote for a RINO"

were just looking for an excuse to jump on the bandwagon - they would have gone all orgasmic for just about anyone. The first day she was named I heard all that blather from my R family and acquaintances - "she's great, we love her, best pick ever, winning team, blah blah blah" - when there was no way in hell anyone there had ever heard of her or had the slightest idea what she was about. And these were people who just weeks ago were pretending that they might "sit this one out." :eyes:

[SunDrop23]

37. I don't think they love her, but they do love the stuff she's saying and how she's saying it. (nt)

[JI7]

43. the ones who love her are those who would never vote for Obama

or any other Democrat.

the right wing base loves her. the only thing McCain so far did with picking her is gaurantee he will get a turnout of the base. and whatever else support they can bring. Obama would never have won their votes, at most he could have hoped they would stay home because of lack of enthusiasm about McCain.

with the Palin pick McCain also lost any chance of winning over upset women supporters of Hillary.

[greblc]

45. People love her because "She's a working mom just like me! "

That's what I'm hearing around the water cooler. I'm thinking it equates to I'd have a beer with him.

[opihimoimoi]

47. GOP HERO WORSHIP SYNDROME Gone Wild

Their Hero is an old guy...they needed fresh...never mind qualy...just fresh

ALL IN BET on Palin...she goes down, the GOP goes down too...

Brace yourselves for a nasty fight

[Hekate]

48. Have you noticed how mean she looks when she puts her lower lip out & nods?

She'll make a point while smiling, then close her mouth, give a really self-satisfied tight smile and nod. Betcha "Barracuda Sarah" was a high school bully, among her other sterling qualities.

Hekate