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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:04 PM
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"The elitists on both coasts"
Have Democrats ever overtly attempted to geographically and culturally divide the country and the people?

I hate repubicans.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:05 PM
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1. If we did the same thing, we would be called... elitists.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:05 PM
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2. Imagine if a Dem said...
"all that white trash with money in the South"
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:06 PM
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3. Subsidize the red folks in the middle -
http://www.nemw.org/taxburd.htm

Per Capita Tax Burden and Return on Federal Tax Dollar: Fiscal 20051

Per-Capita Adjusted2 Per-Capita
Federal Federal Federal Federal Federal Return on3
Spending Spending Spending Tax Burden Tax Burden Federal Tax
State or Region (in millions (in dollars) (in millions) (in millions) (in dollars) Dollar

New England
Connecticut 30,774 8,827 29,496 40,314 11,563 0.73
Maine 11,356 8,654 10,885 7,728 5,890 1.41
Massachusetts 55,830 8,684 53,512 63,003 9,800 0.85
New Hampshire 8,331 6,393 7,985 10,649 8,172 0.75
Rhode Island 8,423 7,896 8,073 7,969 7,470 1.01
Vermont 4,645 7,495 4,452 4,085 6,592 1.09
Total 119,359 8,395 114,403 133,749 9,407 0.86

Mid-Atlantic
Delaware 5,495 6,537 5,267 6,622 7,878 0.80
Maryland 66,720 11,972 63,950 49,178 8,824 1.30
New Jersey 58,617 6,771 56,183 86,112 9,947 0.65
New York 144,876 7,521 138,861 168,710 8,758 0.82
Pennsylvania 99,503 8,046 95,372 87,940 7,111 1.08
Total 375,211 8,034 359,633 398,562 8,534 0.90

Midwest
Illinois 80,778 6,351 77,424 99,776 7,844 0.78
Indiana 42,347 6,768 40,589 38,081 6,086 1.07
Iowa 20,345 6,884 19,500 17,830 6,033 1.09
Michigan 64,787 6,410 62,097 66,326 6,562 0.94
Minnesota 31,067 6,075 29,777 40,578 7,935 0.73
Ohio 77,881 6,796 74,648 70,304 6,135 1.06
Wisconsin 33,749 6,091 32,348 36,961 6,671 0.88
Total 350,954 6,481 336,383 369,856 6,830 0.91

South
Alabama 42,061 9,265 40,315 24,675 5,436 1.63
Arkansas 20,387 7,354 19,541 13,926 5,024 1.40
Florida 134,544 7,586 128,958 135,146 7,620 0.95
Georgia 59,846 6,571 57,361 55,952 6,143 1.03
Kentucky 34,653 8,308 33,214 22,003 5,275 1.51
Louisiana 39,628 8,815 37,983 20,563 4,574 1.85
Mississippi 26,181 9,027 25,094 12,434 4,287 2.02
North Carolina 59,162 6,817 56,706 52,547 6,054 1.08
Oklahoma 27,637 7,816 26,490 19,572 5,535 1.35
South Carolina 32,044 7,531 30,714 22,711 5,337 1.35
Tennessee 48,288 8,062 46,283 35,872 5,989 1.29
Texas 148,683 6,509 142,510 146,932 6,432 0.97
Virginia 95,097 12,583 91,149 60,185 7,963 1.51
West Virginia 16,087 8,909 15,419 8,815 4,882 1.75
Total 784,298 7,813 751,735 631,335 6,289 1.19

West
Alaska 9,230 13,788 8,847 4,830 7,215 1.83
Arizona 44,639 7,500 42,786 35,988 6,046 1.19
California 242,023 6,725 231,975 289,627 8,047 0.80
Colorado 31,173 6,670 29,879 35,880 7,677 0.83
Hawaii 12,699 10,018 12,172 8,519 6,721 1.43
Idaho 9,598 6,731 9,200 7,728 5,420 1.19
Kansas 20,492 7,474 19,641 17,434 6,359 1.13
Missouri 48,273 8,340 46,269 35,171 6,077 1.32
Montana 7,814 8,350 7,490 5,228 5,586 1.43
Nebraska 12,785 7,289 12,254 11,261 6,420 1.09
Nevada 14,089 5,849 13,504 20,135 8,359 0.67
New Mexico 20,604 10,752 19,749 9,891 5,162 2.00
North Dakota 6,608 10,391 6,334 3,829 6,021 1.65
Oregon 22,792 6,279 21,846 23,583 6,497 0.93
South Dakota 7,481 9,590 7,170 4,840 6,205 1.48
Utah 14,823 5,917 14,208 13,134 5,243 1.08
Washington 46,338 7,389 44,414 49,682 7,923 0.89
Wyoming 4,782 9,440 4,583 4,209 8,310 1.09
Total 576,243 7,216 552,318 580,971 7,276 0.95

Northeast 494,570 8,119 474,036 532,311 8,738 0.89
Midwest 350,954 6,481 336,383 369,856 6,830 0.91
Northeast and Midwest 845,524 7,348 810,419 902,167 7,840 0.90

South 784,298 7,813 751,735 631,335 6,289 1.19
West 576,243 7,216 552,318 580,971 7,276 0.95
South and West 1,360,541 7,548 1,304,054 1,212,306 6,726 1.08

U.S. Total4 2,206,065 7,470 2,114,473 2,114,473 7,160 1.00


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NOTES: 1Federal expenditures by state do not include dollars that could not be distributed by state or that were unavailable. Such amounts include payments on the interest on the debt, international payments and foreign aid, current operational expenses not included under salaries or procurement, expenditures for selected agencies, and foreign outlays.
2Adjusted federal spending is used to account for federal spending not included in the Census data on federal expenditures by state and to account for budget deficits or surpluses. The adjustment makes spending equal taxes. The adjusted amounts are calculated by multiplying unadjusted federal spending by the ratio of the 50-state U.S. tax burden total to the 50-state federal spending total.
3Return on federal tax dollar is an imprecise measure of federal spending patterns. It is calculated by dividing adjusted federal spending by federal tax burden.
4U.S. totals do not include spending for the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, or the territories.
SOURCES: Northeast-Midwest Institute staff calculations based on U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, annual Consolidated Federal Funds Report, and The Tax Foundation, annual Special Report: Federal Tax Burdens and Expenditures by State.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:06 PM
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4. I wonder how some of my relatives in the Second City feel about that
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 11:06 PM by LSparkle
Chicago is LIBERAL and I'm sure this pisses them
OFF!!!!!

On edit: We're part of that LIBERAL ELITE! Don't
forget us (or POLAND).
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:07 PM
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5. Doesn't Johnny have houses in California and D.C.?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:08 PM
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6. People with education. People working together in multi-cultural communities.
People from the ORIGINAL Thirteen Colonies AND the people who crossed an entire continent (instead of falling along the way) in search of greater opportunities.

Yeah.

Elitists.

:puke:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:12 PM
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7. Mitt Romney - New England Millionaire - threw the same line yesterday.
before he suggested Al Gore quit flying around in his private jet.

:rofl:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:20 PM
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10. because as Peggy Noonan says it's another "bullshit narrative" , LOL... I'm quoting her ass everyday
tilll Obama gets elected.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:13 PM
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8. They are sociopaths -- they'll lie about anything to win n/t
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:13 PM
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9. I am so fucking sick of being thought of as less than a "true American."
McCain, shut the fuck up. Yeah, I live in Seattle, Washington. Why the fuck am I allowed to be a political target just because of where I live?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:37 PM
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11. So much for his
reaching out eh.
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