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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:32 AM
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The Republican Convention - or not ...
There is talk of delaying the Republican Convention, there is talk of canceling it all-together. I believe Bush and Cheney have already canceled for their speeches monday night.

Were they to delay their convention it would do them good. Traditionally each of the Parties candidates has seen a bump in their polling numbers immediately after their Party's Convention. This year both Conventions are late, it would help the Republicans if they could move their's back even closer to the Election. That bump may be the only one they see.

Bush and Cheney canceling can't do anything but help them gain support. Even some Republicans have come to hate that dynamic duo.

So what can be said about the future of the '08 Republican Convention? Only this, it clearly shows that the rank and file Republicans, the ranchers and farmers and fishermen and pizza delivery guys and mid-west evangelicals have absolutely no say in or effect upon the direction of their Party. The Republicans are more than happy to appoint and anoint without input from the would-be voters. That's what delaying or canceling the Republican Convention tells us. It brings to mind the selection of a new Pope. The people stand and wait to see smoke change color to find out who has been selected by a secretive elite to be their next master.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:34 AM
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1. So red smoke means a hot CON!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:40 AM
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4. Imagine Dean Announcing Who Our Candidate Will Be
Can you imagine that we had no Convention and one day John Dean had a press conference and said, well, we picked Senator Wilson to be our Nominee and here is the Party Platform we came up with; now all you people get out there and vote for us. Imagine what the press would have to say about that.

In fact how do we even know McCain would come out of a convention as their pick? Stranger things have happened than that the apparent nominee was not chosen by his or her Party after all was said and done. There is history.

I just can not think of anything more elitist, more like a monarchy, than the simple appointment of the top of the slate coming out of whatever it is that passes for today's smoke-filled-room.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:49 AM
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8. Just another CON job that they will lay down to the tune of walk on me.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:36 AM
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2. I think they are all wiping their brows in relief.
Nobody wanted to be there. The paultards have their counter-convention, many Senators weren't even going to show.

It does serve them to not have it shown after the Dems amazing production.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:48 AM
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7. 100% correct
Perry is staying home; Jindal is staying home; Bush is staying home.
They cannot match the Dems. Oh the irony!! The hurricanes are coming home to roost.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:38 AM
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3. It looks more like the crumbling of the GOP
The hurricane is just a convenient excuse for the party republicans
to run as fast as they can from the out-of-control McCain Express from Hell.

If this convention falls apart now, it's never coming together again.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:45 AM
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5. Word on GEMSNBC is that they will not
cancel the convention. Lots of coastal Rethug politicians are not attending. They know the convention will flop anyway - now they have their excuse.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:51 AM
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9. Bwwwaaaaa ha ha ha ROFLMAO. Pug pervert cons, party of excuses.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:46 AM
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6. So if they don't nominate fuck-nut, how does he get his name on a lot of the ballots.
How does he get people to reschedule their plans.. I don't know, Do they pay for their delegates to come to the convention? I don't think they cannot have a convention. No one was going to watch it anyways, so what's the difference. Think of all the news media and the money they've spent to put up their crews.. the sponsors.. the stage mangaging.. the whole production.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:54 AM
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12. They don't have to have a convention to nominate a candidate.
Remember, this is a party function, not a government function. Rules w/r/t votes yadda yadda don't apply unless the parties want them to. Just as a justice of the peace can say to a couple "OK, you're married" without going through the ceremony with the "do you takes" and the "I dos" and that couple will in fact be legally married, a political party can just say, "we're running this candidate" if that's how they want to do it.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:02 AM
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15. You're probably right, but maybe not
I understand what you're saying and I suspect you are right but it occurs to me that the real problem is how does he get on the ballots in 50 different states with that as his road to the White House. I suspect that there may be some state laws that demand how a candidate may find their way to the ballot that might deny McCain a slot. There have been some pretty strange election laws put on the books over the years, most aimed at keeping the ruling party in power, and they might not work to McCain's advantage without an official ordination.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:05 AM
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16. This will be a disaster plus for the Rethugs
Word is that McWar will have a photo op acceptance speech somewhere on the coast. Don't ask me who is nominating him.

The costs for promoting this flopvention will be staggering. One thing is sure - Gustav sure hit the Convention off the headlines.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:51 AM
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10. K & R
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:52 AM
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11. They Can't Cancel It

Too much money has been spent in MSP already. In addition, I bet the arena is not even available for, say, next week. Finally, they legally have to nominate McCoot. It's not *just* a goofy gathering. Well, mostly. :D
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 07:56 AM
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13. The process for "legally" nominating McCain is saying "We're gonna run McCain."
There are no constitutional or other legal provisions dictating that a party has to have a national delegate meeting to nominate its candidate.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:01 AM
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14. The Party Has Internal Rules

I'm sure they can change them, but they're not going to. The event will go forward.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:13 AM
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17. They May Try To Cancel, But The Corporate Media Won't
There's a lot of money riding on this swillfest...and Repugnicans would rather lose wars and cities than money.

You know there is no sadness in boooooshie and crashcart cancelling...and my hope is that Gustav heads directly to the chicken ranch in Crawford and dumps on him...then finds crashcart's secret location.

Remember, the Paulbots will still be going to Minneapolis...and if the corporate media can't cover the GOOPers, they will be looking for something to waste their electrons on. Plus, this week is a non-stop commercial for this corrupt party that they just can't pass up. Gramps needs to look like the hero here...and will don his Commander Huff'nPuff suit and pretend to play pResident. They'll try to exploit this storm (and Hannah as well) to their advantage.

The show has to go on...and on it will go.

Cheers...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:21 AM
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18. Insightful
Insightful. I mean that. Really.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 AM
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19. Thank You
I've always appreciate your topics and insight as well.

I just hang out here or else I'd drive my wife nuts. :rofl:

:toast:

:patriot:
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