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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:17 AM
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Has anyone gotten the feeling that the real neocon bigwigs don't give a shit about this election?
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 12:19 AM by FarceOfNature
Maybe just a drunken thought, but with every PNAC/neocon demon profitting from endless war through the military industrial complex and "free" trade, is it possible that they're all just ready to jump ship and creep off to their secret complexes while America destroys itself? It's probably Rove's sense of humor to stick the aging neurotic "beauty" with scandal written all over her with the aging, mentally deteriorating old man.

There's a lot on Obama's plate, that's for damn sure, but this election is now his to lose, provided Diebold is controlled.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:20 AM
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1. Yeah, I do.
The question I have is "why?" Why does the Canadian PM want an election not now, but right now? Why are there carriers in the black sea and in the gulf?

My tinfoil hat may be a little too tight, but it feels ominous. I would very much like to be badly wrong, this time.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:22 AM
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2. There is a way for Mccain to fool the Masters...jump...concede to UNITY
If there ever was a time to JUMP SHIP and LOOK REAL GOOD at the SAME TIME...now is it

McCain should Concede and join the DEMs(OBAMA/BIDEN) in a JOINT EFFORT of COMPLETE UNITY.....ALL For ONE...and ONE For ALL....Dumas

Why take the chance to look good the 10% McBush Way ....this is way better ODDS to look like a hero...Join Obama...think of it,

Ya don't have to work the Election... and might get something of a Post where you and staff can go to semi retire...Don't be stubborn

Go with the ODDS....Ya would look really Smashing if ya join UNITY at the right time...and that is next week Fri...

If ya can arrange it...have Obama/Biden w familiues join you and Sarah on stage for a real UNITY THING...

NOW...THAT WOULD TOP THEM DEMS Thingy las week. REAL UNITY for this Great Nation of ours....wouldn't that be a Message of all messages to the World...

Come, we plan LUAU
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im1013 Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:25 AM
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5. What the fuck are you smoking??????????????
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:47 AM
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9. Its good ODDs to look good...or risk a humiliating defeat..its his call.
Can't say he didn't get the message....
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:37 AM
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7. sorry dude, I don't think anyone in our government is quite THAT disingenuous.
:wow: or that smart hahaha.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:48 AM
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10. He can cling to Fantasy all he wishes...Reality has a way of showing itself...
:toast:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:24 AM
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3. Absolutely. These two are sacrificial lambs..and the real politicos are waiting for 2012.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:24 AM
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4. It sure seems like they are throwing this election to Obama.
But why?

Scary question.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:59 AM
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12. Because he votes with them.
The Dem. legislation is a fresh horse to ride...rested, ya know. FISA is not going away nor are many other concessions contrary to the party's base. War, the economy, the pulchritude of his own words and actions, it's going to a rough four years for his camp and America but not for the guys in the saddle.
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curious one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:46 AM
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13. There is nothing left to steal. Now there is a need to build it up so they can take it over again.
Haven't you noticed there is nothing left of this country; economically, military, politically, ... completely bankrupted.
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im1013 Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:28 AM
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6. I think...
McCain must have done something to piss Rove off, and this is his way of getting
back at him.
Would McLame question Bush's brain? I think not!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:40 AM
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8. If they are not planing on giving up power after the first of the year,
why put much energy into an election? Do you really think these criminals will really just pack up and go away and let Obama take control? With their long list of war crimes, how can they?
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:55 AM
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11. yep, I do. Bush already has his 100,000 acres in Paraguay.
I'm living in Argentina and they are STILL hunting Nazis down here.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:00 AM
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14. It concerns me. Newsmax's newest web ad is clearly anti-McCain/Palin and that frightens me.
In those ubiquitous Newsmax ads (Does Hillary Have a Chance? Will McCain win? Etc.) Clinton was always angry-looking with full (possibly exaggerated) wrinkles and Obama always looked fantastic. This first Palin/McCain ad has McCain looking dopey with his teeth yellowed and one eye partially shut. Palin is given subtely pointed eyebrows and she is placed behind McCain at a distance--as if the two couldn't possibly come together as a team. Obama is looking professional and presidential in these pictures.

It's possible that they hate McCain and Clinton. Maybe they think they can manipulate Obama. Maybe they don't want the other 'faction' of the Republican party to win. Maybe they don't want to win at all.

I'm not sure. But something is definitely going on...
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