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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:41 PM
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PALIN'S HUSBAND CALLING THE SHOTS IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ?
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:42 PM by Nikki Stone1
This we run with. It completely undercuts any "executive experience" she is said to have:


http://www.andrewhalcro.com/shadow_governor

In the aftermath of the Walt Monegan firing, one question keeps surfacing over and over again; why does the governor's husband, Todd Palin appear to hold so much power?...The stories started last year when Representative Ralph Samuels told me about going into a meeting, he thought would be private, with Governor Sarah Palin. Much to his surprise, Todd Palin was there and proceeded to sit through the entire meeting.

Other lawmakers have shared similar stories and were shocked at how inappropriate Todd's presence was at meetings with the governor. Yesterday on the Dan Fagan Show, Representative Jay Ramras mentioned that Todd was working lawmakers offices during the ACES debate.

"But more importantly, Todd's fingerprints on trying to impact personnel decisions appear to go beyond the current scandal revolving around State
Trooper Mike Wooten."....

The most alarming indication of Todd Palin's reach into state government came just yesterday. Last month, a group of Alaskans filed a freedom of information act for emails sent from the computers of both Frank Bailey and Ivey Frye. Along with several boxes of documents, they received a cover letter along with 78 pages detailing the emails that were not released due to "Deliberative Process and Executive Privilege". (Privilege log attached) Page 1 of the list showed seven emails from both Governor Sarah Palin and Lt. Governor Sean Parnell within a three hour time frame on Feburary 1, 2008 that were described as "Email re Andrew Halcro". The serious concern about these emails is that they were prohibited from being released to the public due to executive privilege, even though Todd Palin was copied on these same emails.

Todd Palin is not a member of the executive branch, nor is he even a government employee. Todd Palin is a member of the general public. So why in the world is Todd Palin getting copied on emails that his wife's administration is classifying as confidential?
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:43 PM
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1. This is making me very uncomfortable
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:44 PM
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3. mr. palin's actions, or that they are being examined?
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:48 PM
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8. We have to make sure they are true
before we go running with these stories. Is Andrew Halcro believable?
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:53 PM
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18. Will you settle for the Anchorage Daily News? (MSM)
http://community.adn.com/node/127769


...That includes many e-mails Todd Palin exchanged with members of the governor's staff - e-mails with subject lines like "re: PSEA (Public Safety Employees of Alaska) Ads", "re: PR campaign" and "re: Parental consent abortion bill." It's impossible to know what they are about, since the state refuses to say.

Those who made the requests plan to appeal the denial, arguing among other things that e-mails can't be kept from the public because of executive "deliberative process" if Todd Palin, who is not a state employee, is being copied on them.

"I don't know why (Todd) is being copied on everything," said Zane Henning, who made the public records request on behalf of the Last Frontier Foundation, which Henning described as a conservative group from the Mat-Su Valley

Andree McLeod of Anchorage, who separately put in a public records request for the same e-mails, also questioned Todd Palin's involvement. Here's a sampling of some of the e-mails copied to Todd....


Much more at the link.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:56 PM
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19. Great. Then lets get it out there so that the Big MSM can run with it
MsNBC, CNN.................we can forget FOXNEWS, they will cover for her
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:58 PM
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21. Agreed.
Who has the list?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:11 PM
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29. preponderance of evidence is enough for me
a court needs proof beyond a reasonable doubt before denying freedom.

i can use a much more lenient standard to deny a job to someone via election and still have it based on evidence.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:52 PM
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42. How does one get this info to Olbermann?
Thanks
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:14 PM
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50. he has a blog over at MSNBC and he checks in quite a lot
he also has a diary at Dailykos.

and he seems to have a crack staff who are on this stuff ASAP.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:27 PM
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52. Could you post it?
I am keeping track of Hurricane Gustav for some friends of mine. Thanks.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:54 PM
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59. andrew is credible. He's careful.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:43 PM
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2. and he's an employee of a foreign oil company. so what influence does BP have with the governor?
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:44 PM
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4. Excellent question!
This needs to be investigated. Anyone want to send this Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow?
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:49 PM
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12. I guarantee you that Rachel Maddow is
all over Gov. Palin. Thank goodness Rachel has a new show starting on Sept. 8th. I will bet that Rachel will be the source for all things Sarah.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:52 PM
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16. Are we ready to play hardball now?
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:53 PM by Fluffdaddy
I love it. If Palin's a nut lets get it out there.

She needs to get Andrew Halcro on her show, radio and TV both
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:59 PM
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23. Always, if the info is real.
Never, if the info is just misogynist innuendo.

Email away.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:11 PM
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28. Agree. We can't let ourselves get played by a planted false story
You seem to understand the game...............on my buddy list you go
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. No, That's why I worry about the baby stories, They're trouble.
And they are being spread by some hit and runners. This one may have legs.


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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:26 PM
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35. Yeah, that baby thing could BACKFIRE on us bigtime. I would not touch it
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:29 PM
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36. Major blowback.
There's enough professional stuff here for lots of attacks.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:48 AM
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63. This ticked is just a continuration of the group that is already
running this country. She will continue to promote the oil co. via her husband's co.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:45 PM
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5. It's the Dominionist concept of Male Headship
I bet Sarah doesn't fart without getting her husband's permission.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:47 PM
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7. No need to be crude about it, but I agree with the religious angle.
I think this really needs investigating.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:01 PM
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47. That is my take on this....
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:47 PM
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6. McCain's vetting of Sarah Palin borders on the criminal.
He didn't send a team to Alaska to check her out properly. Looks like there is a whole lot more to her governance than we or he thought. If I were a Republican I would feel betrayed.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:48 PM
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10. It may not have been his choice.
I am sure he would have preferred his old buddy Joe Lieberman.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:58 PM
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22. Right wing radio scared him off of that choice
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:03 PM
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48. That is what I read..but Big Oil told him to forget about Joe, and that his VP
would be the oil-interested, fundamentalist, controllable, anti-choice, female Governor of Alaska.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:50 PM
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13. Bet he made up his mind right after Obama's speech. Fear
make you do stupid things
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offog Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:48 PM
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9. This is creepy.
I can't see any self-respecting Republican male Governor letting his wife get into the business of government that much, so why is Sarah Palin allowing this? So much for Republicans treating women as equals.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:01 PM
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24. My fear is that she is a front for BP and for her church, through her husband
This needs to be investigated.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:05 PM
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49. Yep. Me too. If she would be in a position to take over for McSame, you can bet his term would be
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 04:05 PM by BrklynLiberal
very short...and the changes that she would make might make prez shit-for-brains look like an amateur. He courted the fundies to get votes. She really believes all that stuff!!!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 05:54 PM
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55. True believers are always a problem
We can't underestimate this.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:49 PM
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11. K & R
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:51 PM
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14. Remember the shit we
had to listen to when the pubs said Hillary had too much say with Bill?
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:52 PM
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15. It's the conservative christian theory
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:52 PM by norepubsin08
of "headship" the husband makes all the decisions and calls all the shots!
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:53 PM
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17. Heckofajob vetting this pick.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:33 PM
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37. I think she may have been forced on McCain by the fundie right
Scary.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:44 PM
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40. Not scary, laughable.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:46 PM
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41. Don't underestimate this.
The fundie base is energized now.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:56 PM
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43. You watch way to much snooz.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:57 PM
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44. Nope. Just know that she's Newt's pick
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:59 PM
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46. So he's the dumbass.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:57 PM
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20. Todd Palin exchanged emails Governor's staff re: " Parental consent abortion bill".
http://community.adn.com/node/127769


....Much of the Frye/Bailey e-mail traffic, though, was either blacked out or denied altogether by the state on the basis of "deliberative process" or "privacy/personnel." ... That includes many e-mails Todd Palin exchanged with members of the governor's staff - e-mails with subject lines like "re: PSEA (Public Safety Employees of Alaska) Ads", "re: PR campaign" and "re: Parental consent abortion bill." It's impossible to know what they are about, since the state refuses to say.

Those who made the requests plan to appeal the denial, arguing among other things that e-mails can't be kept from the public because of executive "deliberative process" if Todd Palin, who is not a state employee, is being copied on them.

"I don't know why (Todd) is being copied on everything," said Zane Henning, who made the public records request on behalf of the Last Frontier Foundation, which Henning described as a conservative group from the Mat-Su Valley

Andree McLeod of Anchorage, who separately put in a public records request for the same e-mails, also questioned Todd Palin's involvement. ...Todd Palin has been in the news lately with fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan saying Todd tried to pressure him to fire a state trooper who went through a bitter divorce with the governor's sister. Todd Palin has said the family was concerned the trooper was a threat to the governor's safety but that he never told Monegan to fire the trooper.

Todd Palin is now on the North Slope working his job as an operator for BP and I haven't been able to talk to him about the e-mails. Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said she couldn't speak to specific e-mails to Todd Palin from members of the governor's staff, since the state found them not to be public record...
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:04 PM
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25. so much for little Ms. Powersuit
stinks to high heaven
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:06 PM
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26. Why is it that I can easily see him sporting a mullet?
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:08 PM
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27. This Andrew Halcro seems to be on the up & up.
Someone who knows where all the dirt is on Palin. He may be a gold mine of info
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:16 PM
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31. Check out the Anchorage Daily News
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:22 PM
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33. Thanks for the link. Hopefully Left Radio will be ready to run with this Tuesday
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 03:23 PM by Fluffdaddy
Lets do it like the Rightwing-nuts...................Internet >Radio>then TV.

Make this story have legs
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:25 PM
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34. This speaks to her professionalism and her qualifications
That's why it is important.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. Agree. This is the stuff we and the left media should run with.
Let the KOS deal in the National Enquirer kind of stuff. And if something pans out.......that's great.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. I just wish Skinner would jump on those damned baby stories.
They don't help anything.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #39
56. I also wish DU would stay away from the baby. Let The Natl Enquirer do their thing.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. Agreed.
I also wish people would think more carefully before starting threads.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:16 PM
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30. The two Representatives cited are both Republicans, and Samuels is the current Majority Leader. . .
Representative Ralph Samuels:

http://www.housemajority.org/samuels/index.php

Representative Jay Ramras:

http://house.legis.state.ak.us/rar.php


So not much wiggle room for a "partisan attack" defense.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:58 PM
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45. According to fundamentalists, women always have to obey men
wives are actually slaves of men. I have heard that from fundamentalists that I have known. How extreme is her form of religion, it scares me to think.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:19 PM
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51. I think this is a good angle. The people of my county will understand this all too well.
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 04:19 PM by Wizard777
Our former county executive Janet Owens (D)couldn't light a cigarette without her her husband being there to approve it. We now have a republican county executive because of the perceived shadow government. So I'm gonna run with this. Thanks!

:yourock:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 05:19 PM
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53. One big KICK!
I already recommended when you first posted it!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 05:26 PM
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54. Thanks!
:hi:
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:52 PM
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58. little kick...
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. Appreciate it.
:hi:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:28 PM
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61. Question - do all governors have executive privilege?
I thought that only was for matters of national security in the federal government.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:50 PM
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62. Ack!
:wtf:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:11 PM
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64. The fundies believe that a woman must have every decision made for her
by her husband, so why is this surprising to anyone?
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