Russia Could Destroy NATO Ships In 20 Mins: Admiral

[Purveyor]

Moscow: Russia's Black Sea Fleet is capable of destroying NATO's naval strike group currently deployed in the sea within 20 minutes, a former fleet commander said Friday.

"A single missile salvo from the Moskva missile cruiser, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, and two or three missile boats would be enough to annihilate all the NATO ships deployed in the Black Sea," Admiral Eduard Baltin said.

The former commander was reacting over the NATO build up near the Russian waters in the wake of the Georgian crisis and subsequently Russia breaking off ties with the alliance.

On Tuesday, Russia's General Staff said that there were 10 NATO ships in the Black Sea comprising three US warships, Polish frigate General Pulaski, German frigate FGS Lubeck, Spanish guided missile frigate Admiral Juan de Borbon and four Turkish vessels. It also said that eight more warships were expected to join the group.

But Baltin said: "Despite the apparent strength, the NATO naval group in the Black Sea is not battle-worthy."

"Within 20 minutes the waters would be clear," he said, stressing that despite major reductions, the Black Sea Fleet still has a formidable missile arsenal.

However, Baltin said the chances of a military confrontation between NATO and Russia in the Black Sea are negligible.

"We will not strike first, and they do not look like people with suicidal tendencies," he said.

In addition to its flagship, the Moskva guided missile cruiser, Russia's Black Sea Fleet includes at least three destroyers, two guided missile frigates, four guided missile corvettes and six missile boats.

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[Schema Thing]

1. Send in Palin!

with her fishing boat experience, she'll have this settled before lunch.

[Pavulon]

2. Vodka rots the brain

any person who keeps up with the topic is well aware of the massive decline of the post soviet navy. Starting a war with nato is not the same as invading kraplakistan gerogia.

They know it and we know it.

[tjwash]

3. w00t...better up the pentagon budget to an even trillion now! The red menace is back!!

:eyes:

[NNN0LHI]

4. Look at this mofo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFS_Moskva

General characteristics
Class and type: Slava class cruiser
Displacement: 11,490 tons
Length: 186.4 metres (611.5 ft)
Beam: 20.8 metres (68.2 ft)
Draft: 8.4 metres (27.6 ft)
Propulsion: 4 COGOG gas turbines, 2 shafts 121,000 shp
Speed: 32 knots
Range: 10,000 miles @ 16 knots
Complement: 480
Sensors and
processing systems: ·Voskhod MR-800 (Top Pair) 3D search radar
·Fregat MR-710 (Top Steer) 3D search radar
·Palm Frond navigation radar
·Pop group SA-N-4 fire control radar
·Top Dome SA-N-6 fire control radar
·Bass Tilt AK-360 CIWS System fire control radar
·Bull horn MF hull mounted sonar
Electronic warfare
and decoys: Rum Tub and Side Globe EW antennas
2x PK-2 DL (140mm chaff / flare)
Armament: 16x P-500 Bazalt (SS-N-12 Sandbox) anti-ship missiles
8x8 (64) S-300PMU Favorit (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range surface-to-air missiles
2x20 (40) OSA-MA (SA-N-4 Gecko) SR SAM
1x twin AK-130 130mm/L70 dual purpose guns
6xAK-630 close-in weapons systems
2x RBU-6000 anti-submarine mortars
10x2 quin 533mm torpedo tubes
Armor: Splinter plating
Aircraft carried: 1 Ka-25 or Ka-27 Helicopter

[Pavulon]

6. Soviet Era..No new surface cinstruction since collapse,,

however BIW and elco stay busy.

However air power is a threat to these ships.

Russia has no intent of starting WW3.

[bushmeister0]

7. Yeah, but look at this mofo!

Sensors and processing systems:

• AN/SPY-1D Radar
• AN/SPS-67(V)2 Surface Search Radar
• AN/SPS-64(V)9 Surface Search Radar
• AN/SQS-53C Sonar Array
• AN/SQR-19 Tactical Towed Array Sonar
• AN/SQQ-28 LAMPS III Shipboard System

Electronic warfare
and decoys:

• AN/SLQ-32(V)2 Electronic Warfare System
• AN/SLQ-25 Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
• MK 36 MOD 12 Decoy Launching System
• AN/SLQ-39 CHAFF Buoys

Armament:

1 × 29 cell, 1 × 61 cell Mk 41 vertical launch systems with 90 × RIM-66 SM-2, BGM-109 Tomahawk or RUM-139 VL-Asroc missiles
1 × Mark 45 5/54 in (127/54 mm)
2 × 25 mm chain gun
4 × .50 caliber (12.7 mm) guns
2 × 20 mm Phalanx CIWS
2 × Mk 32 triple torpedo tubes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_McFaul_(DDG-74)

That's nothing to sneeze at!

better stick to the vodka.

[bushmeister0]

5. Of course, this doesn't take into account the LA class SSN that's

rumored to be lurking in the area.

USS Dallas (SSN-700) is supossedly in the Black Sea, too.

If the Turks allow the USS Mount Whitney (LCC/JCC 20) passage -- the Sixth Fleet's flag ship -- it will surely be bringing an ample escort along with at least one Virginia class SSN. That ought to even up the score.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bushmeister0/59

[Pavulon]

8. The score is even

there is enough air power in the region to sink it all. Russians aren't stupid, maybe.

Fucking Kurita learned that at leyte 60 years ago, and there were no supersonic stealth jets at The Marianas Turkey Shoot..

this is all bluster.

[bushmeister0]

9. I agree.

Typical USN, never read Billy Mitchel!

[Javaman]

10. FEAR!!! is the name of the game folks. moron* got us here. remember that. nt

[dkofos]

11. That just makes me warm and fuzzy all over.

Half a TRILLION on defense and they could take us out in 20 min.

[bushmeister0]

12. Really, look what the Russians can accomplish with a few rubberbands

and popsicle sticks!

Now, that's war on the cheap!