Have we reached the tipping point yet? When will Americans finally have enough?

[prolesunited]

Every day it's another damning headline. Much of it we already knew, but it's finally bubbling through to the MSM.

I see what's happening as the last gasp of the white male ruling class who knows it will soon be in the minority. If they don't solidify their fascist corporatacracy now, it will never happen. They were so close, they could almost taste it.

But now, it is crumbling around them.

Some days, I have great hope that we will see the rise of a progressive populism that will restore America to its promise.

Other days, I feel like half the population still has their fingers in their ears, mumbling "lalalala."

How do you feel? Where do you see things going?

[magellan]

1. They won't have had enough

...until they join their out of work, bankrupt neighbors living on the streets.

[Erika]

2. I think our country wants health care and education for our own

I read a letter in the editor from a 7th grader who said his library would be shut down for lack of funding while Iraqi libraries were being built.

W is also providing billions to Latin America for health care while cutting back on needs here.

We've had enough.

[stevedeshazer]

3. I don't think we've reached the tipping point, but we're closing in on it.

I'm more optimistic now than I have been in the recent past. Progressives are winning all the issues right now, something I can't remember happening since JFK.

Republicans are falling all over themselves to abandon Bush. Their candidates for president in 2008 look like a who's who list of freaky political contortionists.

The Democrats have been momentarily stunned. The House was in Republican hands since 1995. They have little institutional memory harking back to the days they were in power. Democrats have to get used to the idea that they can exercise power in a united way. I think that will take some time.

They'll tighten up soon enough. The important thing is that they hear from us, loudly and often.

That's my two cents worth.

[Mojambo]

4. I've stopped asking that question

It is my firm opinion that most human beings, and Americans in particular, have an unending appetite for complete bullshit.

[melody]

5. Not all populations express outrage in the same way

We occupy our country in a different fashion than most other cultures. We aren't
indigenous (most of us) and we don't have the same sense of nationality that others do.

I think the scary point is we've already reached the tipping point and it's one way, way
past the point of consolation. We're about 25 years from a civil war, by design.

[Erika]

6. I am tired of our taxes being shifted to other countries

A 7th grader said today that he felt our taxes should be spent here first. His library is being closed for lack of funds while he is reading about Iraq libraries being built with our taxes.

[Amonester]

7. And I am surprised the blivet's libraries built in Iraq with our money...

haven't been bombed yet (or maybe they've been bombed and the Reich Wing's M$M shills have decided not to tell us... yet).

[ComerPerro]

8. There will be no tipping point. Dems will be obstructed for these two years,

and then a Republican will come up posing as a moderate, or as the newly annointed savior of the Tali-bornagains. Possibly both. McCain, Newt, who knows.

But they will show up speaking progressive talking points, like they always do, but will promise to carry them out while lowering taxes and not spending any money.

And the people, God love em, the stupid people will eat it out of his hand.

[prolesunited]

9. I really hope you are not right

for all of our sakes.

[ComerPerro]

10. me too, but its the course we are on. We need to change it.

If I knew how, I would be a very rich man.

[leftofthedial]

11. anyone who really believes that there is such a thing as

"the white male ruling class" is an idiot.

We are in a class war--300 or 400 super-wealthy plutocratic families (males, females, many nationalities) against the rest of us. They don't give a lukewarm squirt about race, gender, sexual orientation or any of that shit. They care about power and money. Period.

"White males" are not the enemy. True, some of the enemy are white males. But some are women. Some are brown-skinned. Some are yellow-skinned. The one thing that distinguishes them from you or me is not their gender or their race. It is their money. And they are richer and more powerful now than they have been since the Dark Ages.

[prolesunited]

14. Why thank you for the insult

While I will concede that the super elites may control the big picture, such as wars, resources, leaders in specific areas, etc., but it is white males in the U.S. that control the day-to-day policies, both in governments and corporations, that affect most of our lives.

For example, as a woman I see male legislators signing away my rights to control my own body and health decisions. On average, I still earn less than a man, although with the change in family structure, I'm nearly as likely to be a head of the household. And even though women have entered the workforce in record numbers, little has been done to change our nation's daycare structure and far too few places have family friendly policies.

I'm sure someone from a minority group could provide similar examples from their perspective.

We may disagree on this point, but I won't return the insult.

[leftofthedial]

17. your enemies are not your enemies because they are white males

they are your enemies because of their utter dedication to wealth and power.

Nearly ALL white males are not in the group you identify. You are barking up the wrong tree.


BTW, I'm sorry for the "idiot" comment. I don't think you are an idiot. I, on the other hand, am.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. When Bush's disapproval rating is consistently at 66% or above,

only then MIGHT the MSM and Dem majority get the message and turn on him, and speak openly and frequently about the damage done, and the only practical solution- impeachment.

Last I looked his disapproval ratings were in the low 60's...

but remember, a wounded animal fights fiercely and unpredictably- and I mean both the Bush administration and the MSM, which is gradually damaging with the public with its propoganda stenography.

[undergroundpanther]

13. A race

Between getting as many people as we can out of denial,While fighting fascism putting people to sleep of the consumer trance..

Meanwhile we all got to do whatever agenda there is before environmental collapse .

And we got to do the waking up before
some other country sick of Bush's shit pulls an attack that will scare the sheep in to a rightward stampede,another fucking staged Trifecta for Bush.Some dramatic event would scare the sheep shitless and they'll go looking for a daddy to make them feel"strong". Because the last thing a traumatized ignorant consumer sheep wants is more anxiety when they feel vulnerable. They don't be reminded how powerless and how little control they got.They will go out and shop rather than risk anything that feels insecure including a new thought.

[WinkyDink]

15. Short and bitter answer? NEVER.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. "All politics is local." - Tip O'Neil

At this point, the average citizen has no stake or interest in overturning the system. They are content to ignore politics and politicians unless something affects them personally.

There's more "outrage" about Janet Jackson's boob than there is about anything done by the politicians.

[blues90]

18. As long as americans are not affected

Nothing will change , they will remain ignorent until they loose everything .

I don't see people waking up , to me it seems like a hopeful wish , one that if you wish hard enough will come true .

I hear that people are waking up more all the time but I don;t see any effect that proves this thought .

If more people were waking up then I would think we would see more people out in the streets and hear more talk than we do .

I do see peace groups but not many new ones and I see rallys at still low numbers .

People have to first grasp the idea of soul sacrifice before they are well on their way to take charge .

[stnmann]

19. We need leadership.

Would John Edwards make a good leader -does he have what it takes?