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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 02:23 AM
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The fact that we in North America need someone like Bill Mahar to be a "radical"....
voice of opposition to the majority voice shows just how much trouble we are in. I love Bill Mahar but every time I see him on anything besides his own show and he gets labelled a radical, no holds bared, shocking... I just sigh. This should be the stuff of centralism people!! Because he has celebrity status and has been pigeon holed as "the crazy talker" he gets to say stuff that other celebrities and politicians wouldn't dream of touching with a 10 foot poll. How did common sense and a little bit of educated thinking now and then become something we need to keep at "polls" length!! I mean 90% of the rest of the democratic world would look at most of his views and say "yeah and what's your point?.....
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:10 AM
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1. Common sense..
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Sidney J Mussburger Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:15 AM
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2. I love Bill
I've never really thought of him as a radical though. Compared to mainstream talking heads he probably is. I'm pretty sure he was advocating for Hillary as VP last week on some show. I wouldn't call that too radical. Whatever. I'm looking forward to his show coming back next week.
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Sidney J Mussburger Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:18 AM
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3. I'm sorry
I didn't even read your post before I responded. Your right. It's bullshit. lol
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classiclib4life Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:19 AM
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4. Maher a radical?
Wasn't he a Hillary supporter up until a little while ago?

That not radical....the radicals ones support Kucinich...
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:26 AM
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5. Maher is a libertarian
He has been spiraling deeper into a bizarre deluded world of libertarian fantasies for years.

At one time, he was a significant voice. He can still be pretty funny even now - but the honeymoon is over.
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classiclib4life Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:29 AM
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6. You act like all Libertarians are bad
There are Democratic Libertarians you know.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:54 AM
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7. Libertarianism itself is a bad idea.
Some are worse than others, but the whole theme is deeply flawed.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:58 AM
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8. Right offhand I can't think of a single poltical philosophy
Which doesn't have deep flaws.

Nothing in this world is perfect, at least nothing dreamed up by men.

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classiclib4life Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 03:33 PM
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9. The opposite of Libertarianism is Authoritarianism


I'd be careful saying Libertarianism is bad if I where you.

Kucinich is one.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 03:35 PM
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10. Compared to Kucinich and Nader
Obama and Biden really aren't that far from McCain.

Just sayin'
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:15 AM
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11. You're the one who needs to be careful.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:33 AM by Naturyl
Every post I've seen from you smells like pizza.

By the way, political compass (where you got the graph) has this to say:

The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal "anarchism" championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America's Libertarian Party, which couples social Darwinian right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues. Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions, and are more economic in substance (ie no taxes) so they are not as extremely libertarian as they are extremely right wing.
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classiclib4life Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:44 PM
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12. Of course this doesn't apply to modern Libertarian's.
They are just against a big federal goverment; anti federalists.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:52 PM
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13. Okay, let's try again.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 08:53 PM by Naturyl
The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal "anarchism" championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America's Libertarian Party, which couples social Darwinian right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues. Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions, and are more economic in substance (ie no taxes) so they are not as extremely libertarian as they are extremely right wing.

What part isn't *exactly* like "modern libertarians?"
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classiclib4life Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:42 PM
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14. ...
"Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions"

In modern libertarians I don't see a stop of an opposition to that. Most are very weary of the War On Drugs; and police having too much control. Waco and Ruby Ridge are like their major rallying cries...
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