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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:32 AM
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It's not just AP's Fournier who editorializes and inserts personal opinion into news.
This is subtly done by Liz Sidoti of the AP. She starts her piece on Biden, the attack person, as though it will be fair and impartial. But check on down in the article...just a sentence here and there. It is like they are becoming an opinion source instead of news.

I don't quote many lines from AP itself, but a few from this paper which presented this article should keep them from threatening to sue over copyright.

Biden begins by biting.

He jabbed at McCain, a Vietnam prisoner of war who is arguably the county's most vocal supporter of the U.S. mission in Iraq, next to Bush. Said Biden: "These times require more than a good soldier. They require a wise leader. A leader who can deliver."

The Delaware senator also used McCain's own words against him to argue that the Republican can't change the country when he offers more of the same, though he left out details and cherry-picked quotes as he sought to make his case.


Left out details? Cherry-picked? Oh, come on..none of our media dare gripe about cherry-picking and leaving out details. :eyes:

At the same time, Biden charged, without backing up his assertions, that McCain "signed on to Bush's scheme of privatizing Social Security" and said McCain continued to "support tax breaks for companies who ship our jobs overseas" after 3 million manufacturing jobs disappeared.


Without backing up his assertions? Sounds like the AP, doesn't it?

"I've been disappointed in my friend, John McCain, who gave in to the right wing of his party and yielded to the very 'Swift Boat' politics that he once so deplored," Biden said. "Folks, campaigns for presidents are a test of character and leadership."

He insinuated McCain has failed that test. Yet, Biden overlooked moves Obama has made to court the Democratic Party's liberal base and the Illinois senator's own recent flare-ups of hard-hitting politics.

Biden's most direct hit came as he raised McCain's housing gaffe, which had caused the campaign to spiral to a low point Thursday.


Not a gripe about the ugly stuff coming from McCain, right Liz? You are pretty obvious.

The Associated Press definitely has a Fournier problem.

Fournier is a main engine in a high-stakes experiment at the 162-year old wire to move from its signature neutral and detached tone to an aggressive, plain-spoken style of writing that Fournier often describes as “cutting through the clutter.”

In the stories the new boss is encouraging, first-person writing and emotive language are okay.


First person, emotive writing in a news article? Like this article in which he said Obama walks the "arrogance line."

Arrogance is a common vice in presidential politics. A person must be more than a little self-important to wake up one day and say, "I belong in the Oval Office."

But there's a line smart politicians don't cross — somewhere between "I'm qualified to be president" and "I'm born to be president." Wherever it lies, Barack Obama better watch his step.

He's bordering on arrogance.

The dictionary defines the word as an "offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride." Obama may not be offensive or overbearing, but he can be a bit too cocky for his own good.


If the AP is going to post opinion, they should no longer be considered a news source. They should be considered an opinion editorial site, and they should indicate it on their articles.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:34 AM
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1. Associated Pimps. And they spam their spin all over the country.
What they did on the anthrax case was just as disgusting. If you follow them across stories, it's their M.O.
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:37 AM
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2. I'm afraid this is all part of the new Reign Of Fournier
Check it out:

Fournier is a main engine in a high-stakes experiment at the 162-year old wire to move from its signature neutral and detached tone to an aggressive, plain-spoken style of writing that Fournier often describes as “cutting through the clutter.”

In the stories the new boss is encouraging, first-person writing and emotive language are okay.

So is scrapping the stonefaced approach to journalism that accepts politicians’ statements at face value and offers equal treatment to all sides of an argument. Instead, reporters are encouraged to throw away the weasel words and call it like they see it when they think public officials have revealed themselves as phonies or flip-floppers.

The new approach was on display in a Liz Sidoti news analysis written earlier this month with the lead, "John McCain calls himself an underdog. That may be an understatement."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11716.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:47 AM
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6. Selling spin as honesty -- how completely unsurprising.
lol
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:37 AM
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3. Contact info to gripe about their sorry writing.
"Ron Fournier, the Washington AP bureau chief, wrote a hit piece against Obama's selection of Joe Biden as VP and tried to pass it off as objective reporting.

His clear bias makes him unfit for his role as bureau chief, and we can push for him to be removed from this role by writing to the editors of local and national newspapers.

Call for Fournier's removal as Washington AP Bureau Chief by calling his boss, Kathleen Carroll, at 212-621-1610, sending her an email at kcarroll@ap.org, and sending a letter to the editor of your local paper."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:40 AM
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4. I'm glad somebody is finally calling them on it
They've been doing this for years. This is what every group should have been doing all along.

How dare this little twit equate lying swiftboaters to having a liberal point of view. Just outrageous.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:17 PM
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14. This kind of media stuff is what got us into a war.
The newspapers in many cases are lazy enough to use their stuff and not question. Scary.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:46 AM
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5. Firedog Lake has a link..
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 12:46 AM by stillcool47
to write a letter to your paper about Fournier, if anyone is interested...
http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/23/action-tell-ap-to-remove-ron-fournier-from-the-presidential-beat/
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:48 AM
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7. Thanks, I was looking for that. I got the AP phone # above...
But I did not have the handy link to the papers.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:54 AM
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8. There's a diary at Kos...
looks like the AP might take some heat over this one. I've finally deleted all my Michigan/Florida fiasco links! Good to see you.:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:05 AM
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9. You don't mean my FL and MI fiasco journals, I hope.
:evilgrin:

Those fiascos are coming back to haunt us even today at a meeting in Denver.

Rules committee meeting in Denver today....some still declaring unfairness in primaries.

Right in the meeting a guy said the Iowa caucuses were not fair. Takes nerve.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:12 AM
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10. No..I had tons of articles..
going back to 2006 that I un-loaded.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:30 AM
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11. I see what you mean.
I am still hanging on to my stuff in my journals. I still have to use them as proof. Unfortunately. We are not healed here in our area yet.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:31 AM
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12. It seems like the best approach might be
to contact the papers that carry AP. They are the ones that pay AP's bills, and if they are unhappy with Fournier's "reporting" AP is more likely to listen.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:34 AM
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13. Good idea.
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 02:34 PM
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15. AP's Pamela Hess is impeached in this mp3
Gareth Porter & Scott Horton deconstruct AP's misbegotten Pamela Hess:

http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/08/18/gareth-porter-34/
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 03:53 PM
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16. Thanks for that link. Scott Horton impresses me so much.
:hi:

Heading there now
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:46 PM
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18. keep in mind, there are two Scott Hortons, one for Harper's & one for Antiwar.com
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 08:36 PM
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19. I did not know that.
Got sidetracked and have not had time to read it.

There really are two of them?

I am familiar with the one for Harper's.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:39 PM
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17. Sound bites and paper cuts
I have been paying attention to the Reader's Digest style news filler that is AP in regard both to the gratuitous slant and swipes against Dems, the truth generally. You can build a little rogue's gallery of names never ever to trust. ALL the damned newspapers take that organization as their prime news source for lazy eyes and lazier editors, which then proceeds unarmed with facts, to punditry equally corrupted or plain dumbed down.

Fournier outed himself in his content long ago but now he has risen in the ranks plainly evidencing a system of intentional bias and partisanship for profit. The American people mainly have not done as I did, simply check out the wording of the tidbits and inner editorializing of the fact starved slant, nor especially pay attention to filler bylines(that is reserved for page one pundits and celebs). it is simple but if a pro Dem leader doesn't do it the phony fifth Gospel remains sacrosanct in the information canon of our warped social forum.

Newspapers, local stations have to challenged at ground level for using pundits, fillers and in their busy computer days tracking down the best apple pie or car hits car story, finding sources that serve the truth and not the corporate legend.

Instead they ignore it or circle ranks around the crap.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:45 PM
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20. Yes, a complete hack job by Sidoti...
...and this was the main article on Huff Po this morning. The author doesn't offer any facts for her assertions, just states her opinion as fact.
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