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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:28 AM Original message |
Ah people are shocked I tell you (Draft) |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. Pear Harbor was the pits. |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. There is no back door draft, volunteers are being used from the Navy and Airforce |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I sure could tell you stories of the BACK DOOR DRAFT |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. illegal? please, you don't know what you're talking about |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Having people that signed up for duty on a boat or submarine being stuck in teh fucking desert? |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. V-O-L-U-N-T-E-E-R-S are not draftees |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Ah the old canard, they VOLUNTEERED... not for this son |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. you mean they volunteered to only fight wars they agreed with |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. You served in peacetime |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. yeah....that little trip to the desert in 1990 was just a party |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. We disagree |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. we do disagree. I just don't think forcing anyone to serve in the miltiary |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I hate to point this out, but stop lossed troops are not there |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. stop lossed soldiers are still under obligation to fulfill the contract they signed |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Ah the talking points are back in force |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. it's not a talking point, it happens to be a fact. And this isn't 1941 |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. It was fine for the generation that served in 1941-5 but not for you? |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. My kids can make their own choice to serve or not, I don't want some politician making it for them |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. they are being forced into stop loss service and being shuffled |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. actually, sailors can sign up to shoot people in iraq |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. First I questioned an illegal order |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. if you knew what illegal was, you'd be citing the law you claim is being broken |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I know what order I questioned and it was illegal |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. then cite the reg. there are only 9000 troops currently serving under a stop loss order |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. LINK to your numbers NOW |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. here |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Learn to interpret what you read |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. still isn't a draft..they had time left on their enlistment. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. It is being called by veteran organizations a stop loss draft |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. they could call it a candy coated marvel of tastiness, that doesn't make it so |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I see you will not even try to see the problems with this |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. it's not a technicality, it's ON THE FACE OF THE CONTRACT THEY SIGNED |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Horse shit. Total unadulterated horse shit. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. WTF???!! |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. READ YOUR CONTRACT |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. I can see a draft. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I like one solution to this one... Smedley Butler |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I like vince bugliosi's solution more however..... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Ah the obvious one is a trial for crimes against humanity |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. It might work in this situation... but I understand bugliosi... |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. No doubt about it--- that would be a very INSTANTLY EFFECTIVE solution. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
7. Out of sight, out of mindless. |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. there are only 9000 troops actually affected by the stop loss |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Bullshit! From 2002 through April 2008, 58,300 soldiers were affected by stop loss. |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. being affect and currently serving under a stop loss order aren't the same thing |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. LINK we have provided them |
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Da Fusa (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I've got mine |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Didn't you see the link above? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. People spreading falsehoods rarely care about the facts. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
20. K & R n/t |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. If Charlie Rangel has anything to say about it, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Hey your boss will change his tune and call this the obama war |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I hope he does. |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
49. If we draft people, we still have to pay them. Since we're broke, that's a problem. n/t |
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