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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:07 AM
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Conservatives grow wary of mixing church, politics
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Conservatives grow wary of mixing church, politics
Aug 21, 2008 @ 10:00 PM
By The Associated Press
The Associated Press


Social conservatives are growing more wary of church involvement in politics, joining moderates and liberals in their unease about blurring the lines between pulpit and ballot box, a new study found.

Fifty percent of conservatives think churches and other places of worship should stay out of social and political matters, up from 30 percent four years ago, according to a survey released Thursday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life and the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

That significant shift in conservative thought has brought the country to a tipping point on the question: a slim majority of Americans — 52 percent — now think churches should keep out of politics.

That's an eight percentage point increase over 2004 and the first time a majority of Americans has held that opinion since Pew officials started asking the question 12 years ago.

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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/homepage/x1846891199/Conservatives-grow-wary-of-mixing-church-politics
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:08 AM
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1. Would someone tell Rick Warren to but out now?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:09 AM
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2. Once they start losing...
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:28 AM
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3. Good news!
I wonder what brought THAT on? It would be ironic if Warren's Saddleback forum finally plastered it on their foreheads that there never was supposed to be any religious litmus test for public office and that public officials are really supposed to be representing the best interests of ALL citizens and not just the religious/ideological views of a narrow group of people. They are NOT supposed to be trying to FOIST their own religious/ideological views on everybody else either. It would nice to see a restoration of common sense and purpose among everybody in this country restored after so many years of unnecessary and destructive conflict over religion and morality in the political sphere (proving yet again the profound wisdom of our founding fathers in separating church and state from each other).
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:36 AM
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8. I thinking that the end of time hysteria that every new mellinia ushers in is wearing off
people are beginning to realize that JC isn't gonna come knocking at their doors any time soon.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:52 AM
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9. Guess they're finally starting to realize
that they've got to learn to "love the one they're with" right now, which is to say that they need to make sure that the human race survives until...............................???????????
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:30 AM
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4. I call bullshit.
Saying it just when their numbers are falling as a result of doing it isn't going to change a thing.

Especially in an election year.

This is just one more example of the American Taliban getting their propaganda ministry to say whatever it takes to get elected.

I say prove it first, then I'll believe you.


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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:44 AM
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5. I agree.
to me, it's like trying to hide crazy uncle jake before company arrives.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:20 PM
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10. No one else thinks it's weird that the party that controls the media ...
... and is currently sinking in the polls was somehow able to get the media to create a story that puts them in a better, more tolerable, light.

Just before a big election.


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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:47 AM
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6. Their fundy reps in the pulpit aren't crazy enough for them
right now.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:22 AM
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7. Thank you, Rick Warren. nt
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:40 PM
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11. You'd never know it down in here in Southern Plastic Jesusland
There's a fundagelical Southern Baptist megachurch near me that hosted Huckabee a couple of days before the primaries and let him speak to the congregation. This particular church thinks that local and national politics need more religious intrusion, not less.
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