http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3742901BioPort's owner is Porton Down. Guess which other "suicide" worked for them?
Posted by robertpaulsen on Thu Aug-07-08 04:04 PM
David Kelly.
Peace Patriot posted some gems that I will reprint here:
33. David Kelly worked at Porton Down as well--and was friends with Judith Miller, .
whom I notice was one of the reporters named in the lawsuit, above. In fact, Kelly was Miller's chief quoted source for her book "Germs"--about bio-warfare, published soon after 9/11. And it was to Miller that David Kelly wrote one of his last emails, on the day he died--the email in which he expressed concern about "the many dark actors playing games."
The Anthrax plot is a possible motive for Kelly's murder that I had never thought of--and I don't think anyone else has either--that what he knew that got him killed was not about Iraq WMDs, but about anthrax.
The reasons that it seemed to do with Iraq are many. Kelly was a UN weapons inspector in Iraq. His whistle-blowing to the BBC was about Iraq. And he booked plane tickets to go to Iraq on the day he died. He was intending to participate in the U.S. invasion force weapons inspections.
What he said to the BBC--that the pre-war intel had been exaggerated ("sexed up," as the reporter put it)--didn't seem all that earthshaking. Lots of people knew that--the UN inspectors, Scott Ritter, the French, the Germans, and billions of ordinary citizens, including most Americans (55% to 60% of whom opposed the invasion of Iraq--Feb 03, all polls). Exaggerated intel--lies, psyops, disinformation--can all be drowned in the corporate 'news' river of forgetfulness, which was particularly toxic at that time. Could "exaggerated intel" have been reason to murder an insider white guy? On July 7, 2003, Tony Blair was informed that Kelly "could say some uncomfortable things" (not had said; "could say.") Also, Kelly said something to an acquaintance after he was interrogated at a "safe house" that also indicated that he knew something far more threatening than exaggerated intel. He said he had told his bosses that he wasn't about to "reveal any state secrets." So the question was: What "state secrets" did he know that could have gotten him killed?
My guess was that the Bushites intended to plant nukes in Iraq, to be 'found' by the U.S. troops--as part 2 of the Iraq/Niger nuke forgeries scheme. That would explain a number of things, including why somebody in the Bush Junta was so insistent on Bush asserting the Iraq/Niger nuke claim, which had been discredited. It was taken out of Bush's speeches twice, and somehow found its way back in. (He ultimately had to admit the error--probably the only time he has ever done so.) So, it looks very like a set up--Bush makes the claim; the troops then "find" the nukes. (And, never forget, Judith Miller was accompanying those troops, anxious for the scoop of a lifetime, which she had prepped with her lies in the NYT).
And for another, it was the sort of ethical line that David Kelly might have balked at crossing. Signing off on "exaggerated intel" was one thing; planting weapons was quite another. Kelly was a top scientist, praised by all--and legendary as a tough weapons inspector. He passionately believed in his work of WMD counter-proliferation. Something caused him to turn against the Iraq War, in late spring 2003, when he began whistleblowing. His discovery of a scheme to plant the weapons answers many questions about his motivation, his character and the events surrounding his death. In addition, he was murdered four days after Valerie Plame was outed--and her outing was connected to Iraq. Kelly's office and computers were searched. And then four days after his murder, Novak additionally outed the entire Brewster-Jennings WMD counter-proliferation network (putting all of its agents/contacts at risk of getting killed). Everything pointed to Iraq--as the focus of the "state secrets" that the Bushites/Blairites feared would be disclosed by this whistleblower.
However, the motive for his murder could have been something else. And knowledge about the Anthrax plot certainly qualifies as a motive for murder. That he was murdered I have almost no doubt. The only other possibility is pressured suicide--much like Ivins--but Kelly was a straightup kind of guy--well liked, highly respected, with a loving family. There is plenty of evidence that he felt forward-looking on 7/17/03 (the day he was murdered)--including, for instance, emails about his daughter's upcoming wedding. And the manner of his death is just plain absurd, for a man of science. It makes no sense at all, in any way. (Goes out for a walk, cheerfully hails a neighbor, sits down under a tree, cuts one wrist--the ulnar artery--with a dull knife, and bleeds to death all night, under a tree near his home.) (Among other things, the ulnar artery is deep--you generally can't bleed to death from cutting it, because it closes up.) Further, the Blairites had just released him from a "safe house" interrogation and had sweated his testimony to a Parliament defense committee, after weeks of huge controversy and apparent panic in the Blair government. (He didn't say any more "uncomfortable things.") And they sent him home without surveillance? Not credible. So, where were his watchers, as he bled to death all night under a tree?
And I've barely grazed the absurdities and black holes in the official 'investigation.' I think he was outright murderered, and I think he knew something that was very dangerous to the Bushites/Blairites.
This latest bioweapons expert to "commit suicide"--Ivins, in the Anthrax case--prompts me to start thinking: could Kelly's death also be connected to the Anthrax plot?
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Here is another Porton Down chem/bio warfare scientist--killed in a small plane crash in 2004. Research should be done on any connection to Kelly, and, of course, to Ivins, Ft. Dietrich and the corporations involved. Paul Norman sounds rather like Kelly, in his passion for WMD counter-proliferation. (A lot of biochemists have died, many under suspicious circumstances, over the last 5-6 years. This site contains a list of them.)
http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadScientists.html "#58: Dr. Paul Norman, age 52. Died: June 27, 2004. From Salisbury Wiltshire. Killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon. Expert in chemical and biological weapons. He traveled the world lecturing on defending against the scourge of weapons of mass destruction. He was married with a 14-year-old son and a 20-year-old daughter, and was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defense at the Ministry of Defense's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. The crash site was examined by officials from the Air Accidents Investigation Branch and the wreckage of the aircraft was removed from the site to the AAIB base at Farnborough."
34. Kelly's history at Porton Down (just a bit)--and a few other things...
LibertyorDeath post at DU in 2005 (comment #25):
"In 1984 Dr. Kelly was invited by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) to take the position of chief microbiologist at its secret facility at Porton Down. Kelly had been working in the NERC Institute of Virology in Oxford. He brought a number of scientists with him from there to Porton Down
"At the Hutton inquiry, Brian Jones testified as to Kelly's involvement, with the highest security clearance, in analyzing top-secret information regarding biological weapons of the U.K. and other governments. Jones was director of a department on the Defence Intelligence Staff (DIS). That involvement, beginning in 1987, presumably continued until his (Kelly's) death and through his several other jobs as weapons 'inspector' in Russia and (for UNSCOM) in Iraq.
"It was before and during Kelly's tenure at Porton Down that it became involved with South Africa's bioweapon program named Project Coast. A cardiologist named Wouter Basson who was the personal physician of South African Prime Minister Botha headed the project." (my emphasis)
http://64.239.13.64/free/ww3/111203_kelly_2.html http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3891807 Lots of facts and links at that DU post, above.
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News article on Dr. Paul Norman's plane crash: (2/7/04)
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-11737876-details/WMD+expert+killed+in+plane+crash/article.do Questions: Did Norman succeed Kelly as chief microbiologist at Porter Down? Could Norman have been one of the scientists that Kelly brought with him to Porter Down (who then succeeded him)? What was their relationship? What could they have mutually known that got them both murderered within a year of each other? That's a very high toll of British head microbiologists, in only 7 months time. The Hutton coverup was swiftly done. The inquiry was convened three days after Kelly's death. The report came out in Dec 03, only five months later (and received blistering criticism). Norman's small plane crashed about a month later. Did Norman know something about Kelly's death? And does either death have anything to do with the Anthrax case and Ivins' death?
The Hutton Report
http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/hi-pn210703.htm (Although it is a coverup, full of black holes where critical information should be, it contains a lot of interesting detail--for instance, the item I mentioned above, that Blair was told that Kelly "could say some uncomfortable things," on 7/7/03, the day after Joe Wilson's Iraq/Niger nuke op-ed was published, and one week before Valerie Plame was outed, with Kelly murdered three days later.)
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Here's a list, of 11 microbiologists' suspicious deaths in '01-02
http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/anotherdeadscientistguestrt.html 35. Destroying the reputation of the target, post-mortem...
From Fort Detrick With Love
(Steven Block of Stanford University, an expert on biological warfare) also told the Dallas paper: "The FBI, after all these months, has still not arrested anybody . . . It's possible, as has been suggested, that they may be standing back because the person that's involved with it may have secret information that the United States government would not like to have divulged.
"And what the government would not want divulged is the fact that the United States has been in flagrant violation of the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. Article 1 of the convention specifically states: "Each State Party to this Convention undertakes never in any circumstance to develop, produce, stockpile or otherwise acquire or retain: 1. Microbial or other biological agents, or toxins whatever their origin or method of production, of types and in quantities that have no justification for prophylactic, protective or other peaceful purposes. 2. Weapons, equipment or means of delivery designed to use such agents or toxins for hostile purposes or in armed conflict."
http://www.heartson.com/Politics/anthrax_and_the_patriot_act.html#Who%20has%20the%20authority%20to%20order%20both%20the%20FBI%20and%20the%20CDC%20 http://www.counterpunch.org/madsenanthrax.html ---
It seems kind of "quaint" now--concern about anybody knowing that they were busting treaties--but that was 2002, when the Bush Junta was still feeling its way, trying to terrorize Leahy and Daschle into okaying the Patriot Act that almost no one had read.
The above article, by Wayne Madsen, originally published at CounterPunch (4/8/02), goes on to discuss....
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"The Death of Dr. Wiley: Murder They Wrote
"The one person who was in a position to know about the origin of the anthrax sent through the U.S. Postal Service met with a very suspicious demise just a month after the attacks first began.
The reported "suicide" and then "accidental death" of noted Harvard biophysics scientist and anthrax, Ebola, AIDS, herpes and influenza expert, Dr. Don C. Wiley, on the Interstate 55 Hernando De Soto Bridge that links Memphis to West Memphis, Arkansas, was probably a well-planned murder, according to local law enforcement officials in Tennessee and Arkansas...."
And get this...shades of Ivins...
"...according to U.S. intelligence sources, Wiley may have been the victim of an intelligence agency hit. That jibes with local police comments that the FBI and 'other' U.S. agencies stepped in to prevent the local Memphis police from taking a closer look into the case. Employees of St. Jude's Childrens' Hospital in Memphis, on whose board Wiley served, were suddenly deluged with unsubstantiated rumors that Wiley was a heavy drinker and despondent.
"It is a classic intelligence agency ploy to spread disinformation about 'suicide' victims after their murders. The favorite rumors spread include those about purported alcoholism, depression, homosexuality, auto-erotic asphyxia, drug addiction and an obsession with pornography, especially child pornography.
"According to the local police, it would have been easy to determine if Wiley was a heavy drinker and that would have shown up in his autopsy. The police also reckon that if Wiley left the Peabody under the influence, four hours later he should have been sober enough not to have fallen over the side of the bridge. Also, the bridge railing is high enough that even the 6' 3" Wiley could not have accidentally fallen over it without assistance. Add that to the fact that no one in the history of the bridge had fallen over the side...."
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With Ivins, it was "homicidal" tendencies!
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In discussing why Wiley may have been killed, Madsen writes...
"The South African media has been abuzz with details of that nation's former biological warfare program and its links to the CIA. The South African bio-chemical war program was code-named Project Coast and was centered at the Roodeplat Research Laboratories north of Pretoria. The lab maintained links to the US biowarfare facility at Fort (Detrick) and Britain's Porton Down Laboratory. The head of the South African program, Dr. Wouter Basson, was reportedly offered a job with the CIA in the United States after the fall of the apartheid regime. According to former South African National Intelligence Agency Deputy Director Michael Kennedy, when Basson refused the offer, the CIA allegedly threatened to kill him. Nevertheless, the U.S. pressured the new President, Nelson Mandela, to turn over the records and fruits of Basson's work. Much of this work was reportedly transported to Fort Detrick."
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"One of the South African's secret projects involved sending anthrax through the mail. Among the techniques that fell into the hands of the Americans was a method by which anthrax spores were, with deadly effect, incorporated on to the gummed flaps of envelopes."
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The timeframe coincides with Kelly's tenure at Porton Down.
This site has an Anthrax timeline from early Oct 01 to May 02--very informative!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3719123#3722855
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