Manager or Visionary: What does the US need after Bush?

[BurtWorm]

The case can be made for either. A manager might be just what's needed to concentrate and dig the US out of the heaping mess the Bushists have made of it. But a visionary might also be needed to see through the heaps and find the way forward up from Bushism.

A related set of questions: Who among the current crop of hopefuls or near hopefuls are managers and who are visionaries?

[elehhhhna]

1. What does the US need after Bush? A good bleaching and airing, for starters.

[ms liberty]

2. We need both...

And both are available in one person: Al Gore.

[blm]

3. A great manager or visionary would understand first that truth matters to a democracy.

And the only way FORWARD is for the American people to be treated as CITIZENS - inform them with the truth - respect them as citizens instead of seeing them as just voters to be manipulated.

Anyone who envisions the best for our country and the world will respect its citizens by telling them the truth and sharing the long hidden documents that have led us to the catastrophic mess in this world today.

Who will Step up to respect the citizens and the truth?

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[sweetheart]

4. pragmatist nt

[fla nocount]

7. Pragmatic Populist=Howard Dean n/t

[sweetheart]

8. anyone can come to the religion of pragmatism

even hillary clinton or webb, or whatever they call themselves today...
a pragmatist looks to what's not working and fixes it for good....
.. a pragmatist has the integrity to end the drugs war out of that very common sense... or to hint that they
are a pragmatist by the way they come at things.

I'm still taking inputs on all these candidates... Howard Dean is doing EXCELLENT at a global strategy,
mistaking to stop at national borders, the democrats need their own embassies to maintain the relationships
the republians hack up every time they get in. ;-)

A simple peopleman would be fine, a person who knows how to manage and inspire persons who are smarter than
himself, commanding respect out of love rather than browbeating.... love to meet a real person amongst the lot.

[fla nocount]

10. You're correct of course.

I've been reading a lot of Robert Caro lately and picking up the background of the rebound from the Depression and the Coolidge/Hoover administrations that while not originating the Grange/Populist movement certainly give it focus, purpose and teeth. I wish for an FDR who can sing Woody Guthrie songs I suppose.

[Prophet 451]

5. Both

The Bushistas have done a lot of damage in a pretty short time so you need a manager who can put that right but also a visionary who can plot out a course for the next decade. You either need someone who can combine both or one each in the Pres/VP slots. Of the ones that come to mind, Hillary would probably be a good manager but not especially visionary, Wes Clark likewise. Obama is plenty visionary but I know very little about his management ability, ditto Kucinich (is Dennis running this year?). Edwards combines a certain degree of both but Gore has lots of vision and his management ability is decent enough. I'd go with a Gore/Edwards ticket.

[OneBlueSky]

6. an enlightened visionary with enough smarts to hire good managers . . . n/t

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[nomaco-10]

9. How about someone who listens?....

I want someone who is not consumed and ruled by their ego and that will surround them self with managers, visionaries, pragmatists, scholars and experts on all matters important to this country. I want a man or woman that will listen and take into consideration the informed and educated opinions of a highly qualified field of men that he chose carefully and wisely to help him determine policies that benefit not only the US, but the rest of the world.

[rock]

11. Hercules!

Wasn't he the one that cleaned the Aegean stables?

[sutz12]

12. I'd settle for sanity.......nt