more baloney from John Edwards.

[cali]

John Edwards claimed in his nightline interview that his affair with Hunter took place in a short period of time in 2006 and ended in that year. He claimed that he told Elizabeth in 2006. If it ended in 2006, it must have ended either on December 30th or 31st.

And no, it's not the sex, it's the banal and self-serving lies. And the stupid insistence on doing a public mea culpa on TV and lying is what's going to keep the press digging for inconsistencies. That's why this story ain't going away any time soon.

Edwards Took Mistress on 2006 Presidential Announcement Tour
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Well, you gotta give him one thing: the man has chutzpah.

Photographs distributed by wire services and posted online by technology blogger Robert Scoble show that former North Carolina senator John Edwards took his mistress Rielle Hunter with him on the plane during his late 2006 presidential campaign announcement tour. As can be seen in this Dec. 28, 2006 photo (that's Hunter in the jeans and jester hat, as can be seen more clearly in this side-profile photo), Hunter stood off to the side of the national press corps filming Edwards as the former Democratic vice presidential nominee announced his second bid for the presidency in New Orleans.

Here she is drinking from a cup as Edwards is interviewed by the press. More photos of her at Edwards's presidential campaign kickoff can be found here and here, where she's shown laughing with Edwards's young staffers.

Writes Scoble on his Flickr site under a photo of Hunter he uploaded Dec. 30, 2006, "I was hanging out with John Edwards and crew as he announced he was running for President of the United States. This photo was taken in New Orleans as Edwards gave press interviews on the lawn of a house that was destroyed in Hurricane Katrina."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/11/edwards_took_mistress_on_2006.html?hpid=topnews

[anonymous171]

1. John Edwards is old news. Repeating this only plays into the corporate media's hand.

[cali]

4. sorry, the MSM isn't going to drop this, and it has zilch to do with what's

posted or not posted on some blog. The MSM didn't touch this for a year. He actually got a big fat pass until he did his interview on Nightline.

It's that interview that's red meat for the corporate media.

[shawmut]

9. He could have just told the truth Friday and this story would have nowhere to go

but, of course, John has proven that he isn't that kind of guy.

[book_worm]

2. My question is why did he visit this woman and her baby in CA two weeks ago?

The reason he finally came clean is that he was caught leaving the place. If it's over and he's not the daddy there is really no reason for him to see her. At least that's my feeling.

[Connonym]

56. I don't agree

especially if the baby daddy is also a former campaign worker as well. :Gasp!: I've visited former lovers and their wives babies but I'm not the mother of their children nor had I slept with them during the appropriate time frame. Matter of fact, I'm still friends with a great many of my exes and I know first hand that it's possible to become nonsexual friends to former sexual partners. And I live in the Midwest where were all supposed to be a bunch of fly-over rubes, is it possible that Midwesterners are more sophisticated about former sex partners or are we just more friendly? Visiting someone doesn't establish paternity. Let's be grown ups. DNA may prove me wrong here but the evidence for paternity thus far is circumstantial.

[Muttocracy]

3. that woman is creepy.

A family member gave me a Newsweek subscription last year. Wouldn't have been my first choice, but they meant well. Anyway, the article in there about Hunter is a doozy - Fatal Attraction stuff. I bet she got pregnant on purpose.

[book_worm]

5. of course that is the old fashioned response that it's the woman's fault

apparently John Edwards or whoever it was had nothing to do with her getting pregnant.

[Muttocracy]

11. oh, I don't excuse him one bit, just finished the article a few minutes ago

and it focuses on her so that was on my mind.

[mzmolly]

44. The article is here:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151783

...I stayed in touch with Rielle for months. At lunch at the Soho House in late spring of '07, Rielle told me that she and novelist Jay McInerney were working on a "genius" idea for a television show about women who help men get out of failing marriages by having affairs with them. She said they wanted to pitch this idea to Darren Star, creator of "Melrose Place" and "Sex and the City." At lunch early that summer, I asked Rielle if she was dating anyone. She answered simply, "I'm in love." I asked, "Who with?" "I can't tell you," she said, "but maybe someday we'll all be friends."

I'm not commenting any more out of respect for Elizabeth Edwards.

Edited to remove commentary. *ehem

[cali]

6. I agree. She's rather revolting, but she isn't the one

who was married. Whether it's his child or not is actually rather irrelevant- except for the lies by JE.

[Mimosa]

23. Joe, it takes 2 for a woman to get pregnant ;)

Joe, Rielle or whatever her name is is decidedly creepy. But unlike the mother of Jesus, she was not impregnated by GOD. LOL

[Muttocracy]

31. The way she talks about herself and JE in that article, who knows! nt

[helderheid]

7. I have faith in his wife. Him, not so much. I would think that if he told her in 2006, he would have

never made a run this time for President. He announced his run on December 28, 2006. It has me rethinking why he dropped out before Super Tuesday. It puzzled me back then but I'm thinking perhaps it was closer to THAT time it came out in his marriage.

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[Cleita]

10. Somehow Edward's baloney pales in comparison to

Arnold Schwarzeneggers baloney, not only in the sexual peccadilloes department, but in what harm he is doing the State's employees in his capacity as the Governor of California. So why can't we talk about this instead of Edwards, who is no longer in public life and not able to make decisions that ruin the lives of the people who work for him.

[Occam Bandage]

14. Arnold owns up to his past. That's why it doesn't hurt him.

[Cleita]

15. Arnold is part of the Republican criminal syndicate machine and an ex movie star

who knows how to manipulate publicity and intimidate people with lawyers. That's why it doesn't hurt him!

[Occam Bandage]

18. He was a Republican thug? So were Foley, Vitter, Craig, and Haggard. Arnold proves

the old axiom--it ain't the crime, it's the cover-up.

[tritsofme]

19. John Edwards wouldn't know anything about publicity or intimidating people with lawyers. lol

nt

[Cleita]

22. I'm sure he does, but he didn't. n/t

[SheilaT]

21. No, Arnold does not own up to his past.

He has denied it repeatedly.

[Cleita]

24. And he pays off everyone who tries to bring it up.

Those women have been intimidated as well.

[seabeyond]

34. bullshit. he molested unwilling women and had to pay them off. what bullshit. he just got away

with it.

[Thothmes]

I think you have hit upon the key to these sorts of issues

Coming clean early takes the wind out of the medias feeding frenzy. IMO, if Nixon had fessed up early about Watergate, instead stonewalling the issue, he would have completed his second term as President. I also believe that if President Clinton had held a news conference shortly after Monica hit the press, admitted he got a BJ from her, the whole issue would have died in a week. The media likes to keep the pots boiling with these types of events,
They will keep stirring that pot as long they think they can get a story. If there is no longer a story, they drop it like a hot rock and attack somewhere else. Again, my opinion.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. How can you talk about California's state employees

when there are children starving? Can't we talk about that?
Your argument is baloney.

[Cleita]

20. I thought this was about sex.

There is the matter of statutory rape committed by Arnold and covered up. You know they got one of those tabloids to get Gigi, the girl in question, to give them an exclusive on her under age relationship with Arnold and subsequent trysts with him after he was married to Maria. It turns out the tabloid won't run the story because Arnold and his publicists were behind the pay off all along. Gigi signed a contract that she can't spill the beans to any other news outlet.

[cali]

25. nope. it's not so much about sex

[Cleita]

26. So what's it about? Don't be so shy. Tell us what you mean? n/t

[cali]

28. Lying. Hypocrisy. Poor judgement. Betrayal.

Hubris. Got it?

[Cleita]

29. As politicians go, he is certainly not the epitome of those things

and he is no longer relevant. Give it up!

[Patchuli]

30. Because there's going to be some hungry

California children thanks to Arnold, that's why. Sorry we state peons don't matter but could YOU live on $6.55 an hour?! I'd bet not.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Goddamn that man has made me regret supporting him in '04 more and more every day.

[Cleita]

32. You supported him? I don't remember that. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

36. I wasn't on DU in 2004.

I didn't care for Kerry at all. I was a Deaniac, but he had long since imploded by the time my state rolled around, so I volunteered and voted for Edwards.

[Mimosa]

27. Let's throw the jerk under the bus as he did US!

Edwards was all about himself. Maybe WE ought to give up discussing him?

I guarantee you all he isn't thinking about US right now.

[tavalon]

33. Please stop

Let the MSM have him. They will turn him into mincemeat. Let's focus on other things, ok?

[cali]

35. I'm sorry. It's news and it has an impact.

JE was an important voice in the dem party until this. And the MSM didn't touch this for over a year. Trying to blame them for Edwards' actions and words is ridiculous.

[tavalon]

37. I'm asking you not to help them make it the biggest news item of the cycle

That's all. Whatever personal feelings we may all have about this, we need to just leave it be. It's over and done with and thankfully John didn't take us down with him. Move along. I promise you, Katie Couric can do it without your help.

[cali]

38. You should be imploring John Edwards to stop feeding the media

Nothing I post makes even an iota of difference. His lying does.

[tavalon]

39. So, I'm guessing there is nothing I can say that will get you to stop doing this?

Okay, well, that's unfortunate.

[cali]

40. Oh fucking please. This is my first thread since the JE story broke

and I've written but a handful of posts on existing threads. I'm hardly engaging in what YOU are falsely accusing me of.

And no. YOU certainly cannot tell me what to write. I dislke dishonest6 self-righteousness.

[Cleita]

50. Has it occurred to you that you didn't need to add any new

threads to the hundreds that have gone before this?

[Cleita]

49. This is dead news and you are trying to

resurrect it. So who is feeding what?

[cali]

54. it's not dead news. duh. I posted a WP article with new information

[cwydro]

53. there is certainly going to be even more of a story

if they find campaign funds were used to pay this woman off...and I am very afraid that may be the case.

[jonnyblitz]

42. thanks for posting. the people trying discourage or stifle

discussion of this issue need to STFU and use their "hide thread" function.

[donheld]

43. Cali, it's time you got a new subject too.

Move the fuck on!

[pacalo]

51. Since my other post was deleted (probably at her request), thank you, donheld.

I hate bullies, particularly self-righteous, arrogant, & self-important people who dish it out but tattle when it's being served back at them.

[cali]

57. bzzzt. I don't even recall your other post, dear, and I didn't request

that it be deleted. Kind of kills your idiot assumption. And I don't mind going toe to toe with anyone. Sorry, I'd never alert on a post simply because someone disagrees with me. That's some obvious projection. Just because it's something YOU would do, doesn't mean it even occurs to me.

[pacalo]

59. That's crap. From what I've seen, you make it a point to write controversial OPs

then make the nastiest replies to those who disagree -- & politely, mind you -- with you. That, dear-not, is "projection".

The person who was deleted along with me was guilty only of pointing out that you are trying to revive the political primaries atmosphere. I think she's right.

[cali]

61. LOL! Hypocrisy your dear friend.

YOU couldn't be natier and YOU accused me of something I didn't do and tried to deflect. I never said I wouldn't argue vigorously, dear, I said I didn't alert on your eminently forgettable post. And I didn't.

Paranoid and projecting.l

[pacalo]

62. There's no one here who could be "natier" than you. Aside from that, come back when you're sober

or caught up with your meds. I have no idea what you're talking about in reference to what I posted.

[cali]

55. oh really? You ;mean posting one fuc king thread on the subject

since the story broke last week is just too much? Fuck that sort of bullshit. Deal with it. It's news. And stop trying to shut people up. THAT is disgusting.

[DeadElephant_ORG]

45. I appreciate your courage in posting this. It's about OUR PARTY. n/t

[Beaverhausen]

46. sad and pathetic

nitpicking over the dates when he wasn't specific in his interview, and using bloggers posts as facts. Really sad.

[pacalo]

52. Yeah, who's *really* serving the "baloney"?

[progressoid]

47. yawn

[question everything]

48. To play devil's advocate

(and I certainly have not been defending Edwards) the affair could have ended and she was just a member of the crew.

[cwydro]

58. He is full of it.

A complete and shameless liar.

[4_TN_TITANS]

60. Leave the guy alone...

Undoubtedly, he's turned down 50 times the women I've had opportunities with. Very few men in his position could say no forever and ever.