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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:22 PM
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Russia stages raid near key oil pipeline...


TBILISI (AFP) — Russian warplanes on Saturday staged a raid near a major international oil pipeline that runs through Georgia but did not damage it, Georgia's prime minister said.

The 1,774-kilometre (1,109-mile) Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline is the world's second longest and takes oil from Azerbaijan to Western markets.

Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze told Georgian television: "The area of the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline was bombed by Russian planes. Miraculously, the pipeline was not damaged."

The BTC has a capacity of 1.2 million barrels of oil a day but is currently shut down after an explosion in a Turkish section which has been claimed by Kurdish rebels.


http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gVEVAFFG3fCTHSyXJtrW3C6quvWQ

As they say, follow the oil...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:34 PM
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1. If the route of the pipeline looks odd
its cos first choice was to take the short cut through Armenia but Armenia then was decided to be too unstable :rofl:
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:25 PM
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5. Yeah let's run the pipeline throught Russian hating, Chechnya supporting Georgia

The US is going to end up with egg on its face
for supporting a megalomaniac like Shakasvilli.

I see a permanent Russian military presence in
both South Ossetia an Abkhazia due to Shakasvilli's
recklessness.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 03:51 PM
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2. This pipeline competes with the Russian pipeline monopoly...
....

The pipeline has been an international effort and was built by a consortium led by UK oil giant BP, which has a 30% stake.

Other consortium members include Azerbaijan's state oil company Socar, Amerada Hess, ConocoPhillips, Eni, Inpex, Itochu, Statoil, Total, TPAO and Unocal.

....

The Caspian area produces a high-quality light crude, but has suffered in the past because of the difficulty of getting its oil to consumers in Europe, the US, China and Japan.

Until now, states in the region sent almost all of their oil via Russian pipelines.

The Caspian project is not without risk, however, as the pipeline runs through the volatile Caucasus and will require constant surveillance to prevent it from attack, our correspondent said.

....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4577497.stm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:31 PM
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3. Sorry I missed this
seems to be a penis problem here
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:05 PM
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4. K&R
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:35 PM
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6. The rationale for the BTC pipeline is 90% political and 10% economic


Now you have one of the most expensive
and second longest pipeline every built,
which supplies a mere 1% of the world
production, running through three of the
most unstable countries in the region.

This is the result of 15 years of Western
foreign policy designed to isolate and
humiliate Russia.

What a waste of lives and resources.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:41 AM
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9. How succinct!
:hi:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:58 PM
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12. agree
Oil is in some very unstable countries
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:25 PM
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14. (totally agree) which came first? the oil, or in the instability?
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 01:28 PM by nashville_brook
one day it's be the case that the most unstable countries are the windiest.

it can't be more economical/efficient to wage war for resources. if all that money and life were used to just buy the damn stuff, we'd be way better off.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:10 PM
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13. The Great Game - New World Order Edition n/t
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:17 PM
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16. Yes. Succinct. Thanks for the history lesson.
:thumbsup:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:33 AM
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7. K & R Can we get one more rec please? n/t
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:37 AM
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8. Certainly- K&R (Along with a link to SOCAR)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:20 PM
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10. K&R n/t
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:55 PM
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11. This could help China more than anyone
I haven't been keeping fully up to date on this part of the world -- but last I looked, China was making some very strong moves into Central Asia. Here are a couple of things from early in 2006 that may be still be relevant:

http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/engdahl/2006/0103.html

On December 15, the state-owned China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) inaugurated an oil pipeline running from Kazakhstan to northwest China. That pipeline will undercut the geopolitical significance of the Washington-backed Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline which opened this past summer amid big fanfare and support from Washington. The geopolitical chess game for the control of the energy flows of Central Asia and overall of Eurasia from the Atlantic to the China Sea is sharply evident in the latest developments.

Making the Kazakh-China oil pipeline link even more politically interesting, from the standpoint of an emerging Eurasian move towards some form of greater energy independence from Washington, is the fact that China is reportedly considering asking Russian companies to help it fill the pipeline with oil, until Kazakh supply is sufficient. Initially, half the oil pumped through the new 200,000 barrel-a-day pipeline will come from Russia because of insufficient output from nearby Kazakh fields, Kazakhstan's Vice Energy Minister, Musabek Isayev, said November 30 in Beijing.

That means closer China-Kazakh-Russia energy cooperation--the nightmare scenario of Washington.

Simply put, the United States stands to lose major leverage over the entire strategic Eurasian region with the latest developments. The Kazakh developments also have more than a little to do with the fact that the Washington war drums are beating loudly against Iran.


http://www.americaneconomicalert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=2187

Pipelines play a role elsewhere in Kremlin strategy. Russia has joined with China in creating the Shanghai Cooperative Organization, which also includes Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan (all former Soviet provinces). Though the SCO was created to fight Islamic terrorism in Central Asia, its other prime objective is to keep American influence out of this energy-rich region. In August, 2005, Russia and China held joint military exercises on China’s Yellow Sea coast, which faces the Korean peninsula and Japan, under the auspices of the SOC. The exercises involved troops and naval forces from both countries and strategic bombers from Russia. The operations that had little to do with counter-terrorism, but were widely believed to be directed at countering the U.S.-Japanese alliance.

On December 15, the state-owned China National Petroleum Corp. inaugurated an oil pipeline running from Kazakhstan to northwest China. The pipeline will undercut the geopolitical significance of the Washington-backed Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, which opened last summer. Half the oil being carried to China will come from Russia, until Kazakhstan’s output is expanded. Estimates are that Kazakhstan has 35 billion barrels of discovered oil reserves, twice the amount in the North Sea, and may have double that amount in additional, undiscovered reserves. In October, Beijing completed a $4.18 billion takeover of PetroKazakhstan Inc., beating out ExxonMobil in a deal shaped as much by geopolitical considerations as by money.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:27 PM
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15. bookmarking this for later... thanks for the links.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:36 PM
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17. Nice pipeline ya got there
Be a shame if anything were to happen to it!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:44 PM
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18. Definitely a warning shot...
Russia reasserting their Sphere of Influence...
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