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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:02 PM
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Dems!1 Let's take the EFFING gloves OFF on 5-Plane-McCAIN!11
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 09:08 PM by UTUSN
When when WHEN will we go & enviserate these despicable Rethugs the way we LET them do us?!1


WHY is it that if I post a thread about FIVE PLANE McCAIN's FIVE FUCKING CRASHES, *or* his FUCKING lack of character FUCKING others-than-his-wives(S) ---I get FUCKING bleeding hearts Libs scolding me about taking the FUCKING low road?????!1


Why ------------- CAN'T----------- I ask, "Hey, 5-Plane-McCAIN, ex-fucking-EXPLAIN every one of your plane crashes, AND your fucking marriages?!1


AND what about your FUCKING *collaboration* with the North Vietnamese?!1


Eh?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:09 PM
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1. Here's one: Crash says Bush's War is worth it, therefore he believes the ends justify the means.
Because he believes the ends justify the means, he must also be in favor of Euthanasia for the Elderly, afterall they're headed "to a better place", why not just help them out with a little morphine at a medically appropriate moment, end their suffering, reduce the burden on our already over-burdened health care system and tax dollars. Future generations will thank him for making the necessary changes in our health insurance.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:13 PM
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2. A Vichy Dem will attack me for THIS:
*******QUOTE*******

Google Search on "McCain Forrestal": http://www.google.com/search?q=McCain+Forrestal&sourcei...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on an A-4 Skyhawk, either Aircraft No. 405 piloted by LCDR Fred D. White<1> or No. 416 piloted by future Arizona Senator, LCDR John McCain,<4> which were waiting to launch.<3> The warhead's safety mechanism prevented it from detonating, but the impact tore the tank off the wing and ignited the resulting spray of pressurized fuel, causing an instantaneous conflagration. The heat caused additional fuel tanks to overheat, rupture and spew volatile jet fuel onto the deck, feeding the flames. Huge gusts of fire shot into the air along the flight deck, trapping pilots in their aircraft with no recourse but to escape through the flames or be incinerated in their cockpits. LCDR Fred D. White, waiting to launch in Aircraft No. 405, leaped out of his burning Skyhawk in an attempt to escape the inferno, but was killed instantly (along with many firefighters) by the cooking off of the first bomb. LCDR Herbert A. Hope of VA-46 (and operations officer of CVW-17) jumped out of the cockpit of his Skyhawk between explosions, rolled off the flight deck and into the starboard man-overboard net. Making his way down below to the hangar deck, he took command of a firefighting team. "The port quarter of the flight deck where I was" he recalled, "is no longer there."<3> With his aircraft surrounded by flames, McCain escaped by climbing out of the cockpit, walking down the nose and jumping off the refueling probe.


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message503422/...

The claim has been made:

"Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his A-4. 'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

"134 sailors were killed on the USS Forrestal in 1967.

It is believed by many crewmen and investigators that John McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. 'Wet-starts' shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' apparently 'cooked off' and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions."



http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2008/02/john-mcc...

Incompetence Or A Stunt


'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. 'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.

Zuni Rockets Were Volatile Design


In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' 'cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.

McCain Was Shufled Out In A Hurry


The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration, along with 167 of his fellow Forrestal shipmates. McCain was quickly (they were still counting the Forrestal dead) transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred).

********UNQUOTE*******
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:28 PM
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6. Crash is my favorite name for him. What is it about a man that factors in FIVE accidents.

IR-RE-SPON-SI-BIL-I-TY!!!



I'm not going into the Collaboration issue; being a prisoner and experiencing torture is explanation enough for me.

I'd like to know more about all of the crashes though.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:38 PM
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7. I wish some "reporter" would ask him to account for each incident, and THEN
ask the Navy Department/Pentagon to account for why he was allowed to continue "flying"!1
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:43 PM
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8. We really should go with McCain wet starting that plane..
...and how he slithered away from accountability.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:49 PM
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9. THANK you!1 n/t
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:18 PM
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3. Kind of silly way to go after McCain...
So what if he crashed 5 planes? All this will do is point out that at least one of them was shot out from under him by an NVA missile in a war.

Not a good plan.

Go after McCain on the here and now and on the issues not on the jurassic past...all you'll do is give him and his supporters a reason to tout his military credentials around.

Doug D.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:19 PM
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4. Yeah-yeah. What did I say *before*?!1 ("Vichy Dems" since you won't get it) n/t
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 09:31 PM by UTUSN
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:25 PM
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5. P.S., "his military credentials"?!1 Like WHAT: crashing, collaborating?!1
Why do PEOPLE LIKE YOU *defend* him SO much?!1
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