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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:41 PM
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Edwards supporters should be angry at John Edwards the most.
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 04:42 PM by Arrowhead2k1
He has betrayed the Democratic party with his selfish behaviour. I know some of his supporters are feeling really upset but why keep supporting him? Is this the kind of phony balony adulterers we want representing a part of our Democratic party? No! It's time to ditch the dead wood, Edwards screwed this up for himself and now we can all see he isn't that all around great guy he wanted you to believe he was.

We need people that Americans can trust in office and we need to show everyone that we're willing to turn our backs on those who betray our trust. These kinds of embarrassments can no longer be tolerated, let Edwards be finsished!
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:42 PM
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1. MY FUCKING GOD!!!
WHY SHOULD ANYONE GIVE A SHIT?

It's a personel matter.

WHO REALLY CARES?!?!?!?!?!
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:43 PM
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3. ditto
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:44 PM
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4. It is indeed a personnel manner,
which is why it isn't exactly a personal manner.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:46 PM
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6. Troll much?
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 04:46 PM by inthebrain
That's twice.

Get a life.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:49 PM
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8. What's twice?
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 04:50 PM by Occam Bandage
Edit: Oh, I made a joke about another misspelling elsewhere. Lighten up.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:50 PM
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43. EXACTLY
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:49 PM
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9. Our country and our party deserves better than people who are willing to back stab their own spouses
Flick on the TV, this ISN'T a personal matter. This is a public EMBARRASSMENT! His personal shinanigans have created yet another distraction from the very important upcoming elections. Edwards knew the implications of what he was doing, yet he did it anyways, now he's paying for it and so are we whether you like it or not. Why is it so hard to demand only decent people in the highest of office representing decent people like you and me?
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:52 PM
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12. I'm sure you'll lose your house over it
Maybe even your job.

Perhaps even your dog will get run over by a truck.

Just because a guy cheats on his wife that doesn't mean he's gonna gop seel millitary secrets and shit to other countries.

That's retarded.

It's dumb.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:56 PM
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15. How can you be so sure?
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 04:57 PM by Arrowhead2k1
This kind of thing reveals a lot about a persons character and it sickens me. I for one cannot trust people like this and I'm not interested in continuing to reward bad behaviour. We deserve better!
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:00 PM
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19. It has nothing to do with his character or job
Him cheating on his wife has nothing to do with him being a legislator or a lawyer.

You're an absolute sucker if you've fallen for that clap trap.

I always thought of Edwards as a lying snake. There are those that cheat on their wives and hubbies but are able to do what they do without lying and stabbing others in the back.

There is no relationship between the two.

If it bother you that much and you think it that important, I think you have too much time on your hands.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:24 PM
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34. TV is garbage. They are not my authority.
All they produce is garbage. They make everything into garbage no matter how decent it is. Look what they did to John Kerry a war hero. Fuck TV and MSM. They are toxic.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:15 PM
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30. Here is why it matters ...
If he was the nominee ... this would destroy HIM and ensure that a GOP candidate WON.

You can argue that it should not matter ... but the FACT is that it WOULD MATTER.

And Edwards risked his own marrriage ... AND the possibility of having another 4 years of a GOP President.

While I agree that it should not matter, it does.

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:19 PM
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31. he paid her $100,000 from his donors. That's not personal.
How many people who forked over 20 or 50 bucks does it take to make up 100,000 - and would htey have if they knew it was going toward some sexy sexy action for Johnny?

its way more than just an affair.

and how did he get so confident that he wouldn't get caught - what if it went all the way up to now and he was the nominee?

good lord, it is Not just personal to him by a long shot.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:21 PM
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32. Good point
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:25 PM
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35. How do you know it came from his donors.
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 05:26 PM by avaistheone1
Link please.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:30 PM
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38. she was working for his campaign, was she not?
Think please.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:43 PM
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41. Who cares
So he got some ass.

Seems to me like a few here could use some as well
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:48 PM
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42. nice sexist remark there pal.
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 05:49 PM by Whisp
right along with 'guess she's not gettin' any' to explain away any dissent from a mysoginists statement.
Maybe if I had sex 2 minutes ago, I would look at this totally different. :(

that ass he got was paid for by his donors. pardon me for being picky, but I somehow think that's not quite what they had in mind when they sent their checks in.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:53 PM
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44. Thats real lazy
He got some ass.

that's not derogatory towrds women nor is commenting that some people could use some sex.

Talk about lazy. Is that the best you could come up with. I have no idea who's a male or a female.

There's no proof that he used campaign money to pay for sex either.

Who cares anyways. I wish more of our candidates and leaders got some sex. Maybe they will fuck off with their moral hypocrisy and leave us all the fuck alone about it.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:03 PM
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45. he should have done his dick sticking on his own dime and time.
little johnny doesn't appear to be too smart, afterall.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:05 PM
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47. He did
But I don't think you sent him money to tell him what to do with his dick.

Didja?
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:48 PM
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50. So what? Big deal.
Thing again.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:42 PM
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52. The money is the only REAL story here.
If he paid her off with campaign money funneled through 3rd parties, then this is not a simple sex story. It becomes a legal story and something to be investigated.

The fact that the person who paid her off was at the same time receiving large sums of money from the campaign is incriminating.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:58 PM
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56. You summed it up nicely
Once his campaign money started going to her for those videos, it became everyone's business.
Once he decided to possibly totally FUCK OVER our country and our party by chancing that he would be the nominee and this news broke, oh, as the OCTOBER SURPISE, it became OUR goddamn business.

There is a REASON he told Couric that infidelity should not "control the issues" in a person being elected Prez
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/19/courics-candidate-questi_n_77448.html

He went on to cite "trustworthiness-- sincerity, honesty" as being important qualities in a Prez. Yet he had NONE of these qualities.
He kept this from his supporters/voters even though he publically stated that infidelity was "something reasonable for people to consider" when they vote for President.



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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:43 PM
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2. No, it isn't
Edwards personal life, whatever is or isn't going on there, is no body's business.

I think he should still keep up the work that he and Elizabeth are doing.


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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:50 PM
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10. I think John and Elizabeth should too.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:51 PM
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11. Not When They Use Their Families As Props While Running
Face it, he cheated on the party too.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:02 PM
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21. How about we quit asking candidates
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 05:02 PM by supernova
to be model families in the first place?

Look, I ask candidates to be experts on whatever platforms on which they are running. I don't ask them to be role models that I look up to. I'm hiring them for a job, not wanting them to sleep with me.

Americans need to get over the whole "starry-eyed Daddy" figure when choosing candidates.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:29 PM
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37. That went over badly for Dean in '04
His wife was working in her MEDICAL PRACTICE instead of being out on the trail with him, and the media made a stink about it. :eyes:
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:45 PM
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5. Oh, bullshit!
Do you want eunuchs as politicians? Hey! As I think about it, it might not be a bad idea. It would remove one of the two great temptations every politician faces.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:46 PM
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7. It is his personal life, our country is still way too puritanical and it's all hypocrasy! n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:53 PM
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13. This is so awesome, i was hoping for another Edwards thread, there clearly aren't enough yet.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:59 PM
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17. There are a zillion more since I last looked a little while ago
Jeebus.

Hillary-Edwards-Edwards-McCain-Hillary-Edwards-Edwards-Hillary-Hillary-Edwards-Edwards-Biden-McCain.


The ratio is a bit off here, eh?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:02 PM
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22. and it keeps changing, they'll you with a McCain, McCain, McCain, Shame on you, Edwards.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:11 PM
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28. Over in GD, too
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:56 PM
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14. As an Edwards supporter, there is so much more for me to be angry about
if he lied about it, but this matter of personal indiscretion is not it. I think it was immature and idiotic of him to do so, but he has never betrayed me in his passion of helping the common worker, the poor and bringing a needed health care plan to the nation.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:58 PM
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16. it's not just his personal life, he was running for the nomination..
if he had won we would have been guaranteed a McCrazy presidency. We're really lucky that scenario didn't play out.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:00 PM
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18. You go right ahead and throw that stone. They have not been self-righteous that I remember.
I can only imagine the pain and tears they have been through. If Elizabeth forgives him thats good enough for me. It should be a private matter.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:01 PM
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20. Brilliant!
Let's not vote for him for president in any of the remaining primaries!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:02 PM
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23. Yeah, I am pissed off but not at what you think I should be
I am pissed off that while we have such a criminal regime gripping our nation that we will spend the next several weeks condemning Edwards for SEX.


SEX for Gods sake, would someone go give bu$h and Cheney a blow job? Then we could impeach the bastards.



SEX!:wtf:
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:09 PM
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26. If we kept more people of better moral character,
maybe we'd have an easier time of winning more elections? Aldultery hurt the party enough leading up to the elections in 2000. Imagine the outcome in Florida if Clinton wasn't called up for impeechment just about a year before...

We've got to draw the line somewhere, we can't keep defending this kind behaviour just because they're on our side, it'll just happen all over again. It's time to 'lay down the law' so to speak and send a clear signal that we demand much better from the people representing this party.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:11 PM
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27. Do you think the Republicons are not having affairs?
They are lying about it just like Edwards did. No one ever goes after the sex antics of the right. Why is that?
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:34 PM
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39. Jeff Gannon already took care of that
But since it was a Republican, nobody cared.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:36 PM
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40. The M$M didn't care
Same with the Mr McGoo scandals
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:04 PM
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24. I am not angry at him, I just think he was stupid. I really don't care about this at all. nt
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:06 PM
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25. Had Edwards been the nominee though Democrats could have kissed 08 goodbye
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 05:37 PM by mrone2
I actually think it was pretty ballsy of him to even run in the primaries, and kind of shows a lack of concern over whether a Dem makes it to the WH or not. I think it's his lack of concern in that regard that disturbs me most. I do feel sorry for what is family is going to have to go through over this given the media penchant for running something like this, which is so personal and private in nature, on an endless loop. I also have to admit that I question his sincerity in his stance against Gay Marriage for the sake of protecting the institution of marriage, but that's another story I guess.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:22 PM
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33. He better not show his face at the convention
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:11 PM
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29. This needs to be turned around to attack McUnfaithful.
Why should we give a darn about Edwards' infidelity? Didn't an ACTUAL 2008 presidential candidate do something similar once? Someone in the L$M has to ask McScrewAround his opinion on the matter and then just put the BOOTS to him.

John Edwards is NOT running for President of the USA. John McLoveEmandLeaveEm IS.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:26 PM
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36. Are you lost or is this a 12 step meeting of DU Authoritarians?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:04 PM
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46. Thanks for directing folks Anger!
So helpful! PLONK goes the weasel.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:07 PM
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48. It's a disappointment
You won't see my support behind Edwards.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:07 PM
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49. I don't give a shit about adultery. But STUPID pisses me off. n/t
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:29 PM
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51. Let he or she who is perfect
Or even someone who is not perfect but has devoted a large part of their life to fighting poverty throw insults at John Edwards.

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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:44 PM
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53. I might be a bit disappointed but not at all mad. n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:44 PM
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54. Dumb. Just dumb.
Grow up.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:45 PM
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55. "He has betrayed the Democratic party with his selfish behaviour. "
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:44 PM
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57. I've just about had it with other people telling me who I should be angry with
I had to sit around for months while the status of my vote in my own state's primary was in doubt due to an overreaching DNC decision (which the DNC and everyone else eventually realized was overreaching) and all some people could tell me was "Why aren't you angry at your state leaders?" As if "being angry" would actually accomplish anything.

And now this. I voted for Edwards. He did a hell of a stupid thing. But he's a human being, and it's a family matter. I still respect him for everything he's done in public life.

Screw it. I've had it with people telling me who I should be angry with.
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