The only thing worse than what Edwards did to his family...

[Danger Mouse]

and what he ALMOST did to the Democratic Party...
is the people who somehow seem fine with that.
:puke:

[Lost-in-FL]

1. It is NEVER fine to deceive your family.

But right now Du is looking pretty foolish. There's more IMPORTANT things happening to get all bend over The Edward's sex life.

[JDPriestly]

4. And all those bad things can be traced back to politicians

and news media lying and covering up for their lies. Lying about sex is less evil than lying about the reasons for starting a war, but it is the lies that are bad.

[Lost-in-FL]

5. In the end it is everyones fault.

[avaistheone1]

24. I wish the FISA bill was as important on DU as this stupid affair is

[Epiphany4z]

2. I don't know

I thought cooking the books to get into an unnecessary war...outing a cia agent...maybe getting everyone she ever contacted killed...putting your dip shit friends in charge of things like fema causing many more deaths than necessary from a hurricain...

it may be just me but all that seems to be worse...

then there is that lady who didn't report her daughter missing for a month...aww never mind...

[tomg]

3. My feelings exactly. nt

[Danger Mouse]

18. In the grand scheme of things Edwards' affair wasn't a huge deal.

Yet the lie, the deception, is what makes the whole thing stink the way it does.
Just another politician. Just another liar.

[Epiphany4z]

22. I just can't get worked up about it

he lied about a personal matter...it doesn't bother me..it didn't bother me when clinton did it.

I don't know many men who when first confronted are going to tell you..why yess...I boffed her brains out..thanks for asking...its a question we need to stop asking ..so they can stop trying not to tell us ..hell not having it out isn't just about saving his own ass..it spares his wife...but now..she can't turn on the news..or maybe read her favorite blog because we are all soooooo gasp..OUTRAGED...I just think this is pure dull boring soap opera bull

[RC]

6. This is a 2 year old non story.

Isn't there anything on tv for you to watch tonight?

[sam sarrha]

11. homosapiens are not necessarily monogamous,. no primates are, never have been, never will be. that

doesnt mean some choose, for what ever reason, to be monogamous, but many cant even if they want to :grouphug:

[Beregond2]

36. And there is a perfectly honorable status for people like that:

unmarried.

[Danger Mouse]

14. Very funny.

I'm just laughing it up.

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. Oh horse shit! And why do you care? He was never going to be the dem nominee and that was clear

early on. Why the feigned outrage now?

[TornadoTN]

8. Because a lot of us believed in him and what he could offer - President or not

He lied to us and there's still a lot of unanswered questions about what happened and why he kept up the deception for so long.

Who cares if he wasn't going to be nominee? I trusted him as a leader and to be smart enough to take on the GOP - instead he gave them everything they need to sink him and frame the conversation until November. Some of us donated money to him (myself included) and there's news coming out that he may have paid to make this thing "disappear" to help his campaign chances. That's an insult to me and this country.

[sam sarrha]

12. was and still is the only adult in the room..

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. Well I guess he *screwed* up!

Oops! :silly: I wonder why anyone care? Now?

[Danger Mouse]

15. Feigned outrage. Ha! How the hell would you know how I feel?

[Bluerthanblue]

9. not wanting to crucify him and Elizabeth for this, and not wanting it

to dominate every waking minute, doesn't mean people are "fine with it".

Those who want to beat this to death over the next several days and weeks aren't going to make any difference, or add anything positive to a sad situation. Just remember when you are in a position of having to face your own music, the way you determined that other people should dance to thiers.

You can't control other peoples reactions, we have a big enough job managing our own.

May you know peace, mercy and kindness~

[TornadoTN]

20. I'm pretty pissed because he let it get to this point

He had to know that this would have been the result if he let it go this far. It's going to dominate the news all the way up the convention and he knew it. With everything thats going on worldwide right now, its disgusting that this is going to lead the news rather than real significant issues.

Gov. David Patterson knew what would happen if his affairs came to light - as the GOP had already had all the info about them to bring him down and neutralize his governorship. You know what happened? He came out, put it all out in the open, said it was a private matter from that point on, and it was over. Why didn't Edwards do the same thing? Might he try being honest for once?!?

[MonteLukast]

27. He thought he *did* resolve it, in private.

Elizabeth found out immediately.

I think that JE was confident enough that the baby wasn't his, and believed enough in his ideals, that he couldn't NOT run for president.

[JeanGrey]

33. OH horseshit. He blamed his affair ON running for

President and that he could get away with things.

[MonteLukast]

35. Not quite the same.

He didn't "blame his affair on running for President". He blamed his increasingly me-first attitude on winning campaign after campaign.

Who hasn't felt invincible after a series of wins in rapid succession? Who hasn't felt at least a little bit arrogant and egocentric when they feel there's nowhere to go but up?

He didn't repeatedly have sex with her like Vitter and Spitzer repeatedly visited prostitutes. It wasn't a pattern like it was with our favorite Repugs.

George Allen may have gotten a death blow from "macaca", but it wouldn't have stuck so tightly if he hadn't already established a pattern of racist and bullying behavior.

[JeanGrey]

37. Sorry, it won't fly.

[earth mom]

10. Talk to me when Edwards commits a REAL crime and lies about something that effects

the entire country. Like * Co has done.

Otherwise, the OP is all a bunch of bullshit, aimed squarely at dissing Edwards BECAUSE he's a dem. :puke:

[TornadoTN]

16. Not marching in lockstep in a Edwards lovefest somehow makes the OP a Dem hater?

That's bullshit. We all know the GOP and the media eats this shit for breakfast - its the only thing that they can sensationalize so much that is brings in the ad dollars for their sponsors.

The affair is nothing - its the lie and deception in the height of the campaign that's the most egregious.

[Danger Mouse]

17. BECAUSE he's a Dem...how?

[earth mom]

23. Why else would anyone diss Edwards for something that happens ALL the time in this country?

Why else pass judgment of someone's personal life? We all make mistakes, we're all human.

[JeanGrey]

38. It IS affecting the entire country and as it is dug into more

(finances) it might affect it even more. There is no worse thing than betrayal of your wife before God and your family and your children. Imagine how god awful his children feel. Especially if that baby turns out to be his.

Maybe he'll do what Michael Douglas did when he had his first child by Katherine, went on a show and said "I was never there with my other child. I'm going to be a better father now".

Boy I bet his "other child" just was thrilled to shit to hear that.

[CatWoman]

19. What are you? a bot?

how many of these are you going to start?

what's the point?

[Danger Mouse]

21. I guess it just bothers me that...

we get so angry when Republicans lie and cheat on their spouses and deceive us...but when one of our own does it, there are some here that are willing to try and downplay it.
Let me ask you this...would these same people defending Edwards right now be doing the same if it were, say, Mitt Romney?

[earth mom]

25. How about if it were Obama, what would people here on DU be saying?

I bet they'd be excusing his a$$ all over the place. But when it's a candidate that is a REAL true blue dem, like Edwards, he gets his a$$ handed to him on a platter because he's not perfect.

p.s. I saw a tabloid headline that said Oprah is in love with Obama. So, is it True or False? And if it's true and Oprah & Obama are in love with each other would you give a damn and be as outraged by it? Probably not.

[Danger Mouse]

28. I would NOT be making excuses for Obama if it were him.

I'd be fucking FURIOUS with him if he did.

[AlCzervik]

26. Elrond i don't see many people down playing it here tonight, maybe you're reading a different

du but i see plenty of threads about it that are condemning him for many reasons.


What he did was wrong, the pain for his family must be terrible and you'll hear no excuses from me trying to justify what he did. He was wrong and it's on him and not the democrats as a whole, imo this does not reflect on Obama or the democrats.

[bigwillq]

29. Poor judgment

Poor decisions. The man has to live with it. He's human. We all make mistakes. It seems like Mrs. Edwards already forgave him and it seems like they are working to get past this situation.

I am fine with it. If his wife can learn to forgive him, then I think we should to.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

30. Well, you know what. He's not the nominee. Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...

...it doesn't matter.

As long as Obama keeps it in his pants we should be fine. Heck, even if he doesn't, we'll manage. We've managed with Democratic presidents with "indiscretions" in their past, we'll do it again.

[Danger Mouse]

34. If something like this happens before Obama wins the election, he's screwed...

er, so to speak.

[lumberjack_jeff]

31. Welcome to the fair and balanced DU. n/t

[UTUSN]

32. Elizabeth lied ------------- TOO!1 n/t

[springhill]

43. Oh for crying out loud.............

Lets spread the bloodlust and go after Elizabeth too? What the hell is wrong with you?

[depakid]

39. Politicians will philander

and at least now some of us have an explanation as to why Edwards withdrew prior to super Tuesday.

[springhill]

40. Nobody is fine with it...........

I wouldn't be fine with it if I cheated. But we are all human with frailties. There are many families where this occurs, and many families who get through it. I have to say, since I have a family member who is very judgemental, it's really hard to take.

[spanone]

41. now watch me hide this thread

[TexasObserver]

42. A person has to be in complete denial not to recognize this is not just a private matter.