REAL BACKGROUND on the Georgian war, courtesy of MSNBC video...

[RollWithIt]

What does this attack mean?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=26094998#26094998

Great interview with Richard Holbrooke, why hasn't the US called for an emergency session of the UN? Where is NATO? Why is Bush attending the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, sitting next to Putin, and not sitting in a private room trying to deescalate this fight?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=26094998#26092138

This is VERY serious, reports by the hour indicate the conflict is spreading into greater Georgia.

[gateley]

1. Thank you so much! I was just thinking I'd better educate myself on

this situation. :hi:

[Muttocracy]

2. thank you! I also recommend BBC

[ColbertWatcher]

3. Interesting video, thank you for posting. n/t

[Muttocracy]

4. I think they changed the link on you - this one?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=26094998#26094998

[RollWithIt]

5. I think they reset their story ID's to prevent linking.....

But just scroll down and view the Georgia videos, easy to find the Holbrooke one.

[RollWithIt]

7. I relinked the links, lets see if they stick... nt

[madokie]

6. well I for one is/am happy boy wonder hasn't inserted himself into this mess

he nor his girlfriend can or would make any difference except maybe cause it to escalate

[Muttocracy]

9. are you talking about Condi? I think she's in Georgia right now. nt

[RollWithIt]

10. She was there about a month ago.... here's some YOUTUBE video of that visit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJzmUDMSaOQ

This has been building up for a long time.

[Muttocracy]

14. She was there yesterday according to BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7499227.stm

[enid602]

8. Russia

Interesting timing on Russia´s part. Toward the end of GWB´s failed presidency, US mired in Iraq and Afghanistan, US political capital overseas spent, US deep in recession/bust. This invasion of Georgia is really a horrible thing, but you have to admit the Russians are great chess players.

[FarCenter]

16. Georgia determined the timing

Georgia moved first. They deliberately timed this for a period when leaders would be away from their capitols.

[MadrasT]

11. Thanks!

:hi: K & R

[inna]

12. this conflict is being covered in the most egregiously biased way.

read BBC, not MessNBC.

[FarCenter]

18. BBC is better than the US MSM

The US MSM is useless. People need to take advantage of the Internet with its ability to get news from sites around the world.

Everybody has their own bias, but with a wider sample of news outlets you can factor out opinions, and look for verifiable facts to get some idea of reality.

[MrModerate]

13. Rice = Incompetence; Bush = Gross Incomptence . . .

McCain = Enabler of Gross Incompetence . . .

[jayfish]

23. I Was Going to Start A New Thread...

(still might)on that very subject. Rice was supposed to have this big brain about Russia yet she/we didn't see this coming and did nothing stem the tide of war. George Bush is just an idiot but Condoleezza Rice is a grossly incompetent fraud.

Jay

[MR. ELECTABLE]

15. Do you really want Bush to get involved in this? Really?

In case you been living underground for the last 8 years, let me fill you in:

Bush fucks up EVERYTHING he touches; he's like reverse Midas. I guarantee you if he gets involved with this he will only make matters worse, no matter how bad they are right now!!!

Let's let the other countries of the world (the ones with adults as leaders) handle this one without us. I'm sure most of them know a hell of a lot more about what is going on than captain dipshit, and will come up with a some sort of action.

Really, I think we just need to withdraw from the world scene until cokespoon is gone and all (work for/pray) that Obama wins, so we can have somebody competent enough to handle these sorts of situations.

[lib2DaBone]

20. Holbrooke Says U.S. Must get involved....

U.N AmbASSador Richard Holbroke says the U.S. "must get involved" and "Take the lead" in this conflict. He says that Russia started the conflict. Q: How does he know this.. why didn't MSNBC follow up? (sorry, dumb question) First off, why does the U.S. HAVE to get involved in yet another bloodbath thousands of miles from our shores? And second, a cursory research of news articles shows that Georgia was the invader.... not Ossetia? Someone is lying here.... it can't be both ways?

[sudopod]

21. Did Georgia invade Russia?

I must have missed that.

[lib2DaBone]

17. Most Cluless Award goes to....

Could Brian Williams and NBC News be more clueless? Who are the Assignment Editors at NBC.. The Pentagon? Shameless, Criminal, Lazy, Biased, (just a few adjectives that come to mind)

[inna]

19. i agree completely with #17, n/t

[RainDog]

22. kandr