Why do men kick women when they're down?

[LiberalEsto]

Men cheating on their pregnant wives is an old story. Men cheating on seriously ill wives is not uncommon either (look at Gingrich, McCain and now Edwards). Men cheat on wives who are going through job stress or other kinds of stress. (of course there are men who cheat on their wives because the sun came up, or the sky is blue...)

What is the matter with these men that they can't suck it up and be supportive for their wives during a tough time? Instead of behaving like loving partners, they seem to have the attitude of "Waah, poor me. I'm deprived, so I'm going out to get some nookie."

This behavior is so damned childish and selfish. I can't feel any sort of respect for someone who does this to a partner when that partner is struggling with pregnancy or difficult illness or extreme stress. And of course the pain and humiliation add to whatever the women are going through, making them even more miserable.


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[anonymous171]

1. I don't know. We should ask McCain.

[texasleo]

2. How many songs did Heather McCartney write?

[The Straight Story]

3. Women do that as well

It's just that they get a pass from Oprah when they do so because the men sucked and had it coming :rofl: :hide:

[texastoast]

4. They have "needs"

And can't see beyond them. Pathetic.

[Faygo Kid]

5. It's a two-way street. There's no generic "men" or "women."

I'm sure we all know stories of women who have done bad things to their partners.

It's a matter of character, not gender.

[texastoast]

11. Well, sort of

There are male/female anthropological patterns. Theoretically, males are programmed to be seed scatterers to increase their chances of their genetic material surviving. Women tend to be more selective in their choice for their children's male genitor due to the greater physical investment in the child (more than just a little squirt).

I think the larger percentage of infidelity will fall on the males, just as violence does. And it will likely be dependent on age and hormone levels operating. But I do think it is because of genetic programming. Programming we are all "expected" to rise above.

[glowing]

6. It is strange.. I've asked my now husband what was he thinking.

He loves me, loves our life, and yet, he went stupid. AND that's what he called it. It got hard within (I had a lot of job/ bill stress going on), and he looked to someone who didn't make him face reality. It was easier to pretend. It was easier to have a good time and not think about messes back home. Maybe that is something to do with it. Now, we are married. We have a family. He works with me and talks to me when stress is on. I think its a matter of being able to be a bit human. I can only have faith in our strength now. AND let's hope its not myself who gets into a sticky situation in the future. Life is strange. AND we only have one life to live.

[boomerbust]

19. glowing

Revenge ever enter your mind?

[glowing]

24. What are you proposing?

Just kidding.. I think if we part ways, it would be amicably.. we've worked thru more in our short time together than most couples face, so, I think if we did end, it would be with mutual respect. AND I'm not looking for a divorce at the moment.. and couldn't afford one if I even wanted.

[eShirl]

7. I really am getting tired of these kind of knee-jerk, anti-male threads

[asdjrocky]

8. Wow.

If I made that same post, and switched it around accusing women of doing the same thing, you guys would be all over me. Sorry, I'm not a member of the Hate the Opposite Sex Club.

[dems_rightnow]

9. You making some strong assumptions.

That Edwards' cheating somehow related to his wife's illness. I'm not buying that at all.

[Deja Q]

10. In the media, there are reports of men kicking other men when they're down too.

The sad part is, noting the increase of animalistic violence in the media is grossly irrelevant to the actual conversation you started.

Stress is one thing. People will do some dumb things, yes. There are gray shades for a lot of what you speak, yes. Those I will not debate because they're obvious.

And so is this:

Cheating, claiming stress, is NEVER justified.

Cheating, claiming one's spouse is about to die or is partly mentally invalid (whatever the damn term, it covers every range in the gamut to save a lot of extra typing), is NEVER justified.

Cheating is NEVER justified. EVER. There are ALWAYS avenues to take. "You can look, but you cannot touch" is a standard rule of marriage. You don't break that rule and neither does the spouse. That way you can have all the fun you want, without hurting the other's emotions or, worse, bringing in a disease. Especially if a child is born with the disease because the parents were TOO GOD DAMN SELFISH. And that's what cheating is about: being selfish. It degrades one's self, it degrades one's partner/whatever, and a lot worse can happen because of it.

If the man is psycho, go to the police. Snitch, unlike that slimy "musician" that the tv show '60 Minutes' portrayed wouldn't ever do because it might impact his life. See vermin? Want to clean up? Call the police, damn it already!!! Otherwise, don't whine when there are problems.

[TahitiNut]

12. Why do women kick men when they're down?

Fuck the gender bias. :puke:

[OwnedByFerrets]

14. LOL you beat me to it...

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

18. It's bizarre.

Truly. Those who are self-righteously (and self-servingly!) vocal about 'sexism' engage in blatant gender stereotypes and biases ... and think themselves somehow "entitled"?? Fucking insane.

[OwnedByFerrets]

13. Why do women kick men when they are down.

Both questions are stupid.

[undeterred]

15. "It didn't mean anything." "It was just sex."

"I was thinking about you the whole time."

Men kick women whether we're up or down, but when the wife has terminal breast cancer and her husband cheats on her, he has proved to the world that he is a total dick.

[RadiationTherapy]

22. I am a man and I say FUCK YOU to all haters.

Fucking loco Lorena Bobbitts the lot of ya!!


See? Useless broad brush. Doesn't help does it?

[undeterred]

23. You are obviously full of generic hatred towards women.

Pathetic.

[RadiationTherapy]

27. Based on what? My sarcastic example of broad brush statements about an entire gender based on

a single person's behavior who is a member of that gender?

Gee. Where have I EVAH seen such a thang??

I am also, loved, loyal, married and raising a daughter. A strong minded daughter who can see individual acts for what they are.

[pink-o]

29. I think it's cuz you called the brush a "broad"

:sarcasm:

I'm a chick, a feminist, and I want to see equal rights for women socially as well as be respected for my sexuality and judgement as an individual. And I can tell my sistahs that strident condemnation of all men doesn't do any good to our cause. Yes, some men are pigs, most men have different priorities than we do and life isn't fair cuz they can be fat and ugly and jerks and as long as they have power and money they're universally respected. But most guys are as nuanced as we are. Most guys aren't jerks who will cheat on us as soon as look at us. It's just not true, nor constructive in solving real gender issues.

[RadiationTherapy]

28. I am filled with generic hatred towards generic haters.

Ironic, isn't it?

[texastoast]

32. Let me tell you about a friend of mine

She is 6'1" tall and a stunningly beautiful, loving, intelligent, eloquent, long-legged, naturally blonde woman. Until he died recently, she was married to a very handsome, active, "manly" Texan, involved in rodeo, politics, and other pursuits.

Six years ago she was diagnosed with a cancer that has caused her to have to undergo five rounds of chemotherapy. While she was doing it, she was caring for new grandchildren and holding down a full-time, high-stress job with attorneys. Her husband was "in good health" during this period (until he so very luckily keeled over and died from a quick heart attack).

We girls talk. She brought up that her husband said that during her illness she was not able to take care of "his needs."

We are not haters. We just tell it like it is.

[RadiationTherapy]

16. Your op is childish and narrow.

Why don't you really speak your mind?

[undeterred]

17. No, its right on target.

Don't defend the indefensible.

[RadiationTherapy]

20. 'Humans can be cruel' is about as specific as I am willing to go.

All of this gender specific nonsense is head poundingly stupid and pointless.

[RadiationTherapy]

21. If you see the OP as "right on target", then you are full of generic hate towards men

and who cares about conversation then?

[Faygo Kid]

25. Olympia Dukakis and Danny Aiello in "Moonstruck": Because they fear death.

That's why men chase women.

Not sure about the kicking part.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Maybe he didn't want to catch dick cancer.

I'm sorry, was that childish and offensive? Well if you're going to dish it out...

[Swede]

30. Recent studies say women and men do it at the same level.

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"Population parameters for extramarital coitus seem to be at least 50% for married men, and the figure for married women is rapidly approaching the same level" (p. 18).


Extramarital sex: prevalence and correlates in a national survey
Journal of Sex Research, Spring, 1997 by Michael W. Wiederman



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2372/is_n2_v34/ai_19551967

[TahitiNut]

31. Oh those inconvenient facts, again.

They just get in the way of our bigotries and self-serving biases.

:eyes:

[Rage for Order]

33. Because it's fun, and there don't happen to be an puppies to kick nearby n/t