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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:18 PM
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we dont need impeachment.....
we need war crime tribunal.

I've got a feeling that the more the US courts let Bushco get away with, the more like the international courts will step in after Bush is out of office.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:20 PM
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1. We need impeachment first
I'd rather the US rebuke them before the rest of the world does.
Will say a lot about OUR character, dontcha think?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:21 PM
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3. the fact that this bunch is still in office says a lot, don't you think?
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:22 PM
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5. YES.
Very good point.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:35 PM
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8. Impeachment, prosecution, war crime tribunal
I just want the Dems to draw the line. It's time to bring down "He who must not be blamed" and his poppet, er puppet. At the very least the congress can start initiating bills that clean up the law on outing CIA agents and a whole slew of other laws they've weaseled around.

I'm wondering if the Dems think it's good to have them up there hanging on a rope as they slowly let the scandals drip-drip-drip. That way the Dems will sweep through in '08. The means justifying the end and all that. Hmm, where have I heard that strategy before?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:21 PM
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2. does the ICC have to wait until this bunch of liars, thugs, thieves and murderers are out of office?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:21 PM
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4. Really? How you liking the aftermath of the lack of impeachments for Iran/Contra?
How's that been working out for this country?????

Here, here's an extra thinking cap for ya...
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:23 PM
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6. The US courts would have to turn him OVER to international courts
there's the problem with that scenario.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:34 PM
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7. no, actually not
US not a signatory but Iraq is. So a crime of war committed in Iraq after 2002 is eligible for trial in ICC.

The ICC is a court of last resort. It will not act if a case is investigated or prosecuted by a national judicial system unless the national proceedings are not genuine, for example if formal proceedings were undertaken solely to shield a person from criminal responsibility. (so shielding Bushco in the US or Iraq means that the 'national judicial system' proceedings were not genuine.

So in effect, the less effective the US/Iraq court system is in dealing with the crime, the more standing the ICC on the situation.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:42 AM
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9. The ICC has no standing in the situation
if their verdict is unenforceable.
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