This toon really hits it out of the park!

[n2doc]

A must to send to the freepers!

[JFN1]

1. Love it!!

Great find!!

[liberalmike27]

86. My only complaint

Why didn't he use the "debt" instead of just one year's deficit.

[TexasObserver]

2. Indeed, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II: never balanced a budget in 20 years

Last presidents to balance a budget:

Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

14. Worse than that, for all the blame they assigned to Congress, they never

SUBMITTED a balanced budget.

[TexasObserver]

16. That's right. They submitted deficit budgets every time.

The scam under the GOP is: reduce taxes, thereby driving the budget into the red, then let the weight of debt service on the deficit crowd out spending on social programs.

[harun]

26. Bingo

Reduce taxes, send every penny of tax dollar money in to defense (enriching their friends), barrow more money to spend on defense/wars (enriching their friends: oil, banks, defense contractors), starve the social programs.

[DeeDeeNY]

29. Scam is a good word! NT

[awoke_in_2003]

48. Goes even deeper than that, too...

the debt is financed by the selling of T-bonds, which the rich can actually afford to buy. The interest on these T-bond comes from tax money we pay. Vicious circle, it is (unless you are them)

[bjobotts]

71. Conservatives always get us into debt and dems bail us out. yet dems are blamed for tax and spend

[populistdriven]

75. zfacts.org

[Joe Fields]

56. Excellent point, Lydia! n/t

[lastliberalintexas]

63. If I remember correctly, of the 12 Reagan/Bush years, they

actually submitted a balanced budget one whole time. Of course it would have been by slashing social programs, and may have been the year that Reagan pushed through taxing unemployment and increased the SS taxes. He was so great for working people...


I'll have to see if I can find anything on this, because either way (12 of 12 or 11 of 12) is horrible for such fiscal conservatives. Especially during the time that Gramm and Rudman were beating the Concord Coalition drums.

[spag68]

68. The two bushes

especially junior needed help from the Saud's just to bail out the business side of the family. What makes anyone think they could do better in govt. Starting from Nixon, I doubt that any of them had to worry about a budget.

[BonnieJW]

89. And Lyndon Johnson?

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. Off to the Greatest page with you!

Brilliant.

[sinkingfeeling]

4. That says it all!

[DeadManInc]

5. Sweet! Will send it to some pukes from work.

[file83]

70. LOL

I just started laughing because I love our slang for Republicans...."pukes" :rofl:

[Tyler Durden]

6. Wish we had a "Tax & Spend Liberal" running for president.

No such luck.

[OwnedByFerrets]

12. IF we have a House sending a Democratic President

the right bills, they will get signed into law.

[Tyler Durden]

19. That'd work too. Not likely to happen. nt.

[OwnedByFerrets]

90. And I thought "I" was a pessimist.....lol

[hisownpetard]

7. K&R.

[silverweb]

Wow...

We've all read the stats and seen the graphs, but this is it in a slam-dunk nutshell --

"Conservatism for Dummies" !!

[samsingh]

8. elect a conservative and screw the economy.

that's what happens all over the world

they are attractive to the ultra rich because of the tax breaks they get

anyone making less than a million a year should NEVER vote conservative unless they want a terrible economy.

[awoke_in_2003]

49. The rich that vote conservative

aren't being very smart, either. The economy is going in the toilet, and the value of those dollars they have is crashing. They learned nothing from the 1920's.

[janetblond]

52. elect a conservative and screw yourself! nt

always NOT in your best interest.

[samsingh]

9. conservatives are useless even in the areas they're supposed to

offer something.

conservatives offer society NOTHING. they are empty shells.

[OwnedByFerrets]

10. Gladly K & R

[w8liftinglady]

11. Yes!Thank you for the topic for my next ltte

[Caria]

13. I forwarded it to the guy who keeps sending me shrubby nonsense

and everyone else on his email list.

[XOKCowboy]

15. Clinton was just enjoying the prosperity left by Reagan/Bush policies....

"After all it takes (ummm let's see.. doing the math, counting on fingers) SEVEN years for economic policies to take effect. Every economist will tell you that." How many times have you heard that line from a 'con? It's also a very convenient explanation for how Clinton didn't really leave a surplus. It just took 7 years for the economy to crash due to Clinton's policies. It wasn't George's fault at all, see?

:sarcasm:

[Naythan]

67. wow...

i couldn't believe it the first time i encountered someone who said Clinton benefited from reagan/bush's economic policy and the reason the economy is so bad now is because of clinton.

it still boggles my mind that people can rationalize this way.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. That's not a good toon for some here because it paints President Clinton in a good light.

And we can't have that.

[leapinggnome]

59. cat_girl25

You don't speak for me, doubtful you speak for many. And besides, what an asinine thing to say. Clinton should be painted in a good light when compared to the others in the cartoon. The country had a surplus economy because of his administration.

[Amonester]

78. cat_girl25 was just using sarcasm without using the :sarcasm: tag

Welcome to DU, leapinggnome. :hi:

[Terry in Austin]

91. Good ole Big Dawg

Hey, Bill Clinton was the best damn Republican president we ever had!

[Thirtieschild]

18. Want to forward this but don't know how. HELP.

[rucky]

21. try this link:

http: //cagle.com/working/080801/greenberg21.jpg

Then close the gap between http: and // before you forward it.

[Thirtieschild]

23. Thanks

Texas relatives continue to send me far right propaganda, would like to send this back. The primary sender came to this country from Yorkshire when she was a child, still isn't a citizen, can't vote. Fortunately.

[NBachers]

61. I just dragged my mouse over it diagonally

until it was highlighted, then I right-clicked it, clicked "copy," and pasted it into an email. Worked fine.

[rucky]

20. Thank god for the cartoonists!

They tell the truth better than anyone.

[wiggs]

22. xlntknrnt.

[Jokinomx]

24. Bingo! The entire economic problem exposed in one picture!

Thanks for sharing!

:toast:

[Bobbie Jo]

25. K&R!

:kick:

[windoe]

27. Doesn't 'deficit' just mean money goes from public to (a few) private hands?

Tell me if I am wrong here.

[pleah]

28. K&R Perfect!

:thumbsup: :kick:

[DUlover2909]

30. It's funny how Bush 41 doesn't look anything like Shrubby in the cartoon.

"My friends..." nauseating.

[Kaleko]

32. Yeah, those tell-tale simian features aren't drawn very well.

Apart from that it's dead-on.

[ccharles000]

31. Great cartoon.

I feel sad.

[LynnTheDem]

33. This cartoon is, in fact, FACT. And every republican knows facts have liberal bias.

Will any republican bother to look up the GAO reports and see for themselves that the facts shown in the cartoon are indeed facts?

Nope!

So very much eaasier to deny reality & those pesky facts, and believe that somehow the world (who do know the real facts) can be made to stop believing the facts and believe the rightwingnut fantasy.

[Sherman A1]

34. Priceless!!!

Just emailed it to almost my entire address book.... Just Perfect!



:toast:

[TiredTexan]

35. Sadly, the cartoon grossly underestimates the damage done by

each of these guys. Deficits are only yearly figures. Since Bush II took office, the deficit has gone from $5.7 trillion to $9.6 trillion, a whopping 68% increase in only 7.5 years. Reagan and Bush I have similar records of greatly increasing the national debt.

So now it's official. Bush has not only destroyed the Constitution and trashed our national reputation, he's bankrupted the US Treasury.

[Phred42]

36. Excellent - Let's have more like it... now get to work!!!! LOL

:rofl:

[hootinholler]

37. That's awesome! n/t

[Phred42]

38. Excellent! Here's a graph for a little more detailed info on subject.

[malaise]

39. Brilliant n/t

[Fire Walk With Me]

40. Kick and recommend.

[beac]

41. "And a "maverick" fiscal conservative at that!

Why, I'll have us at One Trillion in no time, my friends!"

[mnhtnbb]

42. Great! K & R

[happygoluckytoyou]

43. tax and spend VERSUS dont tax and spend..... who do you think wins

[The Wizard]

76. It's not that conservatives

don't tax and spend. It's that they borrow and embezzle.
Aside from that, what else should the government do with revenue other than spend it?

[Duppers]

44. an "on the money" toon !!

I sent it out to my email list earlier with my subject-line title and ask that they send it out.
A few wrote back to tell me they did. Yay!


Great find. thanks for posting.

[Dystopian]

45. Good one! k&r eom.

peace~

[HughBeaumont]

46. "Tax and Spend" vs "Borrow and Waste"!

70% of the current national debt was tallied under the three Repuke idiots pictured with no arms or legs . . . just a big DOWN arrow, as they should be portrayed.

K & R.

[Willo]

47. Excellent and very useful. K&R n/t

[SalmonChantedEvening]

50. Yahtzee!

That's perfect :)

K&R

[rpannier]

51. Fantastic

Thanks for sharing

[CatWoman]

53. Can't wait to slap the wingnuts in the mouth with this

great find!!!

:)

K&R

[klook]

54. Oh, but

didn't you know? The Reagan and Bush I economic problems were due to Carter's failed policies! And the Bush II economic problems were due to Clinton's failed policies! And the Clinton economic successes were due to the Reagan and Bush I economic policies finally bearing fruit!

At least that's how the conservative morAns like to spin it.

And anyhow, aren't we trying to shrink the federal government to the size where it can be drowned in the bathtub? The Republican administrations of the past 28 years have done their part!

So just remember - when Obama's administration produces a surplus, it will be due to Bush II's brilliant economic policies finally paying off!

[Joe Fields]

55. OMG yes. Greenberg is my new hero!

No one could have said it better than that...

[Towlie]

57. Sorry, but it won't work! Republicans don't care one bit about the deficit or the national debt.

[Snarkoleptic]

58. Sweet!!

[Patchuli]

60. K&R!

Would that I had lots of $! I would put it up on billboards all over the U.S. of A!!!!! People NEED to understand this! Excellent 'toon!

:kick:

[anonymous171]

62. They don't believe that deficits are bad.

Crazy isn't it?

[file83]

72. It is crazy. To them DEBT = PROFIT, WAR = PEACE, etc...

:puke:= HEALTHY
EVIL = O8)
:toast: = SOBER
I QUIT = :smoke:
etc...

[BlueJac]

64. It looks like a Police lineup..........

One honest person in the bunch

[fryguy]

65. awesome n/t

[L. Coyote]

66. The cartoon needs to be edited, to show there totals, not just one year!

That, and red for red ink.

[CadenBlaker]

69. Ironic and Funny

Right wingers see that image, which is hilarious because it's true and just see Bill getting a bj. LOL

[Kire]

73. 178 recommendations

and there's still 10 hours to go

Is there a way to find posts with the most recommendations of all time? I bet this is up there.

[Amonester]

79. I saw one with somewhere above to 235 rec's before.

It was about Dennis Kucinich should be the Democratic Party Nominee when he was still in it.

[Kire]

93. 211 total

now that the voting period is over

I wonder how that ranks

[JohnnyRingo]

74. Aint it the truth! ... Clay Bennett is a a fave of mine:

Bennett:
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/cartoons/

[Agent William]

95. For a second I thought this was a picture of a DieBold voting...

Machine cartridge. Same difference. =]

[Mad_Dem_X]

77. Excellent! I sent this to a few people

My sister's fiance has been guilty of repeating the "tax and spend liberal" mantra.

[Amonester]

80. Tell her she should repeat the "BORROW and spend republiar" mantra

to him.

[Amonester]

82. ... or the "BORROW and ROB repubLiar" mantra would do

even better...

[happygoluckytoyou]

81. what part of DONT TAX BUT STILL SPEND sounds stoopid

[nxylas]

83. * looks like the dude from Law and Order in this cartoon

Just me, then.

[TexasObserver]

84. I want to thank you for taking the time to post cartoons.

Your threads are always good for reading because of those cartoons.

[n2doc]

92. You're Welcome! n/t

[fascisthunter]

85. simple yet poignant

[progressoid]

87. Happy to give this rec #200

[DFW]

88. McCain--ready to Bleed (the Treasury)

It's still true: if you want to live like a Republican, vote for a Democrat.

[BlooInBloo]

94. Nice.