Yikes, nasty incident in Vancouver's gay district (Pride day here was yesterday)

[HEyHEY]

http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1019695

The people at NW are complete idiots. I was always taught you don't report the race of someone who has committed a crime. That can fuel racism and such. Yet, here they are doing that.... giving every racist the chance to make comments about how horrible muslims are.

[Blue_Tires]

1. history of mental illness? yeah, i think so...

thanks to the police for stating the obvious...even though, in light of what happened on that bus, i think the victims in this story are feeling lucky...

i don't know what is causing all these people to snap lately...

[HEyHEY]

6. That's actually a good question

Cause there was that other decap in greece.

[Parche]

2. What Is It With Canadians Lately? Eh?

:shrug: :hi:

[Posteritatis]

4. Right, a couple psychos are a judgment on us all. (nt)

[HEyHEY]

7. Let's get him !

I'll hit him with a hammer and YOU chop his head off.

[callous taoboy]

35. This Texan knows how you feel, Posteritatis... n/t

[2KS2KHonda]

3. I don't think "middle eastern" says anything about race.

:shrug:

[marmar]

5. Race/ethnicity.....same effect in this case.

n/t

[2KS2KHonda]

10. What's the "effect"? To prejudice people against Caucasians?...a possibility since they

originated in the M.E.

[marmar]

13. There was NO reason to identify the man as Middle Eastern, based on the info in that story.....

..... and sorry, but "Caucasians" aren't assumed to be guilty before being proved otherwise, n'est-ce pas?

[HEyHEY]

15. If this guy was white, would they have reported his race? Nope.

It wouldn't have occurred to them to do so.

[2KS2KHonda]

23. But they didn't report his race. That's what I was trying to explain to you.

:-)

[HEyHEY]

26. They have reported what is the perception of his race

If they said, "A hareth man was arrested" no one would know what that meant. And you can't deny what middle eastern means to most people. It means Muslim. It's still that group they are referring to, whether technically correct or not.

[marmar]

29. Someone who keeps arguing over semantics, as in the poster you're replying to......

.... has no argument at all.

[HEyHEY]

30. ya, I know

I shouldn't even waste my time.
Why don't people who want to fight fight for something worth it?

[2KS2KHonda]

31. Well, some people don't grasp the actual meaning of words.

And that's not my problem. What can I say?

[marmar]

32. "What can I say?"

Way more than you needed to. :eyes:

[HEyHEY]

41. Email from my friend

Who covered the story today....

"yes, totally crazy story. Apparently not a gay bashing motive suspected though....the police mention the suspect
is 'middle eastern' and the other media have been mentioning that, though
we have NOT, rightly so. I think if any identifiable group should be looked at here...once
again, it's the mentally ill. Just my two cents!"

Course our half-wit friend would just talk about "what kind of mentally ill"

[HEyHEY]

37. this isn't an argument about words.... it's an argument about common misconceptions

And the way the general public interprets them.

[HEyHEY]

16. Would you make an argument that isn't stupid, please?

If you can't accept that we're in 2008 - than I don't know what to tell you

[2KS2KHonda]

22. You're right. I need to tailor my arguments for 18th century mentalities.

Thanks for the reminder.
:D

[HEyHEY]

27. you do, or, in this case there's no point in making them

[2KS2KHonda]

34. Well, now that I see what your hobby from the profile is, I understand.

;-)

[HEyHEY]

8. Well, you know he isn't going to be chinese, don't you?

[2KS2KHonda]

11. There is only one race in China?

I had no idea!

[HEyHEY]

14. No, I meant you know he's not going to be from mainland China

Specifically the city of Shang hai.

Seriously, blow out of here if you're just looking to get into an argument based on nit-picking.

[PassingFair]

9. Maxwell's gotten loose!

Joan was quizzical, studied metaphysical
Science in the home
Late nights all alone with a test-tube
Ohh-oh-oh-oh...
Maxwell edison majoring in medicine
Calls her on the phone
"can i take you out to the pictures
Joa-oa-oa-oan?"
But as she's getting ready to go
A knock comes on the door...

Bang, bang, maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead

Back in school again maxwell plays the fool again
Teacher gets annoyed
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant sce-e-e-ene
She tells max to stay when the class has gone away
So he waits behind
Writing 50 times "i must not be so-o-o-oo..."
But when she turns her back on the boy
He creeps up from behind

Bang, bang, maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead

B.c. thirty-one said "we caught a dirty one"
Maxwell stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures ohh-oh-oh-oh
Rose and valerie screaming from the gallery
Say he must go free (maxwell must go free)
The judge does not agree and he tells them so-o-o-oo
But as the words are leaving his lips
A noise comes from behind

Bang, bang, maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon his head
Bang, bang, maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that he was dead

[2KS2KHonda]

12. I always liked that song even if I have absolutely no idea what the fuck they were singing about.

:D

[JVS]

17. Weird.

Has Canada gone violent recently?

[HEyHEY]

18. I wasn't saying it is....

But, when people hear "Middle Eastern" they assume muslim... all the more reason to not report the guy's background.

[JVS]

19. yeah. I caught that after posting. I saw in the article.

[HEyHEY]

20. Yeah... so shut up!

;-)

[JVS]

21. Cool people edit and bury the dispute.

[HEyHEY]

24. I wanna keep it going.

let's rumble!

Actually, let's not, I gotta bus to catch.

BTW, watched "In Bruges" last night, check it out.

[JVS]

25. Bruges? Belgium, pfeh!

Log on to Gmail chat. We can rumble there.

[HEyHEY]

28. I'm out soon.

[Posteritatis]

33. Two violent crimes making the news in the same week?

Wow, that must mean we're all psychopaths up here!

Give me a break.

[HEyHEY]

36. dude, chill out

[Posteritatis]

38. No

I've seen too many people respond to stuff like this as though it was somehow proof that something's fundamentally wrong with Canada as a whole, or that either of these guys have anything to do with me beyond living inside the same borders as I do.

What possible reason is there for me to have any patience with that kind of bullshit?

[HEyHEY]

39. Because JVS is kidding - that's why

[HEyHEY]

40. dupe

[HEyHEY]

42. here it is reported properly by CBC

Took em long enough to get it on the web

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/08/04/pride-attacks.html

[insleeforprez]

43. Wow that's scary

I was out in that area last night...