'Children could be cheated of their innocence'

[JackBeck]

Randy Thomasson: Prop 8 necessary or else 'children could be cheated of their innocence'
by: Pam Spaulding
Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 19:30:00 PM EDT

Can you just picture the flop sweat on this fundie as he grasps at straws to defend his bigotry --- save the childrenz!

Prop. 8 is the ballot measure that would negate a California Supreme Court ruling legalizing homosexual "marriage." And Randy Thomasson of the Campaign for Children and Families believes children ought to be protected.

..."Because homosexual marriage has been ordered by the California Supreme Court, that means children are being taught to honor and respect homosexual marriages from fifth-grade on in sex education school districts-- and from kindergarten on up when the other state law is applied," he details.

...Thomasson suggests it is vital for Californians to approve the constitutional amendment in order to protect "hildren's innocence." And he argues that adult choices should not be pushed upon small children.

OMG -- run for the hills! Children might know about same-sex marriages! And what, exactly, will happen because of that? He doesn't say. What is this "innocence" that will be lost?

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/

Is anyone else getting as tired as I am of these floundering fundies? Don't you get the impression that they have entirely run out of steam and are grasping for anything to stay alive? It's manufactured drama, as far as I'm concerned.

[Heidi]

1. Heaven forbid that children should be taught to honor and respect all people equally.

:scared:

[JackBeck]

6. Unique and noble concept for Americans, isn't it?

We're a young country, so let's hope these are just some growing pains.

I just can't help but think how we're all born tabula rasa and many of us have to erase what was impressed on us, especially in the US, which proclaims to be the beacon of equality.

[tavalon]

26. Funny you should mention that

I have, of late, been wondering why the teaching just doesn't take with some. Myself as an example. I was raised Southern Baptist in a very conservative part of Florida (think really southern Georgia - redneck all the way). I questioned from an early age. I am uber liberal nowadays, a pagan and poly to boot. Most of the people I grew up with are living the exact same life I did as a child, attending that church, never questioning. Why did I question? Why do others question? Why do some of us escape from the churn that is public school and go on to be able to think, to have reasoning skills? I still question to this day, decades later. Heck, that's part of why I'm not a great DUer, I doubt and I question and I'm not good at the lockstep. Don't get me wrong, I love DU but I'm just not a lemming. And I wonder why?

[nam78_two]

8. I know -seriesly

ZOMG!

:hi:

[Heidi]

9. zOMG!111!!

:hug:

[Vickers]

2. "homosexual marriage has been ordered by the California Supreme Court"

:rofl:

"OK, report to the Justice of the Peace and git hitched to a homosexual, and get a move-on!"

[JackBeck]

17. Exactly.

Once we're allowed to experience equality, it means you must get married to the homos.

:headbang:

[tavalon]

27. That's hilarious!

[ColbertWatcher]

3. Who will think of the children! Wow, they're getting desperate.

Thank you for posting this. I'll have to figure out the best way to mock these people.

[JackBeck]

13. Maybe she can help:

:pals:

[ColbertWatcher]

14. And then there's Maude!

But, seriously.

I must find a way to mock these people...

[JackBeck]

16. They've become insignificant.

Both sides became mobilized when this happened:



Through Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, they thought their agenda (even though they called it the "gay agenda") would be born and installed throughout this country.

Didn't happen.

Now they're scrambling to find anyone that will acknowledge their significance. Have you noticed they're being ignored, for the most part, since most people in this country have moved on and pretty much accept gay people as an integrated part of our society?

I would love to find a way to mock their ignorance, too, but I'm at a loss, since most people accept who we are. It's just these marginalized freaks looking to score some political points, even though this election cycle is already proving that their homo scare tactics aren't resonating anymore.

[ColbertWatcher]

19. "Have you noticed they're being ignored..."

For now they are, but don't forget the GOP use their "wedge issues" to frighten their most hateful members of their base out to vote in the fall.

[JackBeck]

21. The last 16 years have been theirs.

Gingrich grabbed the power of Congress for the Republicans during Clinton, and then when Bush was selected by the Supreme Court, all three branches of government were controlled by the Republicans until the Dems took it back in 2006.

The Right Wing had plenty of time to establish their promised theocratic reign on this country, but what happened was the Wingers got used in order to establish an autocratic plutocracy.

Kind of why they've soured on McCain.

[ColbertWatcher]

23. I hope you're correct..

...I fear the GOP will continue to exploit the fears of their most impressionable followers.

I've heard that argument before but, it's worked so far, why would they stop?

[tavalon]

28. Ah, yes, the Contract On America, er, whatever

[RedLetterRev]

33. One thousand points and you get a toaster

and I'm not even up to the plastic ice-cream scoop yet

sigh

[magellan]

4. Instilling an irrational fear and hatred of those who are "different" is far worse for children

It's also in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus.

[JackBeck]

18. Fundies that buy into the modern day interpretation of Jesus

Have not anonymously examined and interpreted the teachings of the one they claim that speaks to them.

They, instead, rely on charlatans to tell them what to believe and who to listen to.

[flvegan]

5. God fucking forbid we teach our children tolerance in spite

of their douchebag parents.

Sorry to use the word tolerance, but it's all I could come up with.

How fucking DARE we teach our kids to treat everyone as an equal.

You watch...this generation and the one following...absolute force to be reckoned with.

You're gay, I'm straight
I don't know how to hate!

[JackBeck]

11. We sooo need to march together:

Me: "I'm gay!"

You: "I'm straight!"

Both: "We don't know how you can hate!"

(Repeat until we get some haters to cross police barricades...I've seen it first hand...)

:hug:

[flvegan]

15. Only if

I've got my arm around you, mate.

I'll be there.

[underseasurveyor]

7. Oh for fucks sakes

:eyes:

[JackBeck]

35. Sometimes, when I read about these people

There are days when that's the only reaction I can muster.

:pals:

[nam78_two]

10. ...

:eyes:
I feel a little-no a lot- stupider for having read that.

Idiots....

[DCKit]

12. Like most of his ilk, Randy Thomasson has a filthy mind.

Also, like most of his ilk, Randy Thomasson is a master of projection and, therefore, assumes that if children learn about alternative relationships, they will conjure up the same sick, filthy and twisted fantasies he does.

Children need to be protected from people like Randy Thomasson - the ones who scream "fire" while putting the matches back in their pocket. Anyone so obsessed with the sexual habits of others needs serious help. I hope he gets the help he needs before we read of his arrest for damaging some innocent child.

[XemaSab]

22. You called it

He's got a dirty mind, and he thinks that everyone else does too.

"If Prop 8 is defeated, we'll have to teach kindergarteners about rough, sweaty, man-on-man action! Even if one of the men is wearing a policeman's uniform and the other man is dressed like a dirty, sweaty biker! And the biker is making the cop do dirty, filthy, unspeakable things that make the cop writhe with pain and pleasure, all at the same time! How can we explain this to the children!?!? Oh noes!"

I wonder how much time *he's* spent in a bathroom stall hoping for some action? :eyes:

[tavalon]

29. Nail, meet head

Yep, these people have screaming issues. I wish we didn't have to hear about it.

[RNdaSilva]

20. Yep...

ignorance and bigotry.

[EFerrari]

24. Translation: Our children might learn something useful. n/t

[Solly Mack]

25. If you swatted idiots for a living would you ever get an off day?

Randy Thomasson alone would prevent that

[spoony]

30. Lol! No doubt any mere mortal's arms would wear out

before the work was done!

[OnionPatch]

31. My child knows about homosexuality. So what?

She's known since I taught her "the facts of life" a year ago. (She was seven...she asked and I told her. I don't believe in lying.) She was very blase about it. "So what if some people choose to love someone of the same sex instead of the opposite?" was her attitude. She still plays house with her dolls, talks about growing up and having babies and getting married (to a man, she tells me) so where is this innocence lost? If I, as her mother, don't see any loss of innocence in her, where is it?

I think what is lost is a prejudice against people who aren't exactly the same as most of the rest of us. The fundies just couldn't stand that my child and others are accepting of those who are different than they. Somewhere along the line a child who is "different" will be able to realize and accept it with ease instead of feeling guilty and being demonized by their classmates. This sounds like innocence preserved, not lost. :shrug:

[Taverner]

32. God I hope our opposition to this prop gets it right

Last time the fundies did this, the opposition group took the high road and lost.

Fuck the high road.

[Midlodemocrat]

34. What a douchebag.

My kids have never once thought that knowing about homosexuality has robbed them of their innocence. :eyes:

[JackBeck]

36. Yup.

And learning about heterosexuality didn't rob me of my innocence.