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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:42 PM
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Bush threatens to veto equal pay for women.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/30/bush-threatens-to-veto-equal-pay-for-women/

This week, the House is expected to bring the Paycheck Fairness Act to the floor for a vote, legislation that would help close the wage gap between working men and women and “close loopholes that have allowed employers to avoid responsibility” for discriminatory pay. In an official statement, the White House said it would veto the bill:

The bill would unjustifiably amend the Equal Pay Act (EPA) to allow for, among other things, unlimited compensatory and punitive damages, even when a disparity in pay was unintentional. It also would encourage discrimination claims to be made based on factors unrelated to actual pay discrimination by allowing pay comparisons between potentially different labor markets. In addition, it would require the Department of Labor (DOL) to replace its successful approach to detecting pay discrimination with a failed methodology that was abandoned because it had a 93 percent false positive rate. Thus, if H.R. 1338 were presented to the President, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legislative/sap/110-2/saphr1338-r.pdf

(end snips)

Do it, Smirk. Do it. Do it for your legacy. Go ahead.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:43 PM
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1. Well, the ACLU is going to have a field day with that if he does!
Not to mention certain ladies wearing pink!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:48 PM
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2. WHAT FUCKING YEAR IS THIS?!?! nt
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:53 PM
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3. Let him Veto the bill...it will further damage dumbass McCain
and then let McCain come out and says he agrees with the Veto!!

Hey McCain have fun at your acceptance speech while the rest of America is watching football!!! ha...ha..ha...
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:53 PM
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4. Hmmmm
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 07:55 PM by fed_up_mother
"It also would encourage discrimination claims to be made based on factors unrelated to actual pay discrimination by allowing pay comparisons between potentially different labor markets."

This is the main excuse for him to veto this. It would unleash a million lawsuits, and not all of them would have merit, imo. We don't live in a controlled communist economy, so I don't ever see "pay equity" between different jobs being forced by the government.

Without this section, the bill would have my 100% support.

Waiting for the flames.. :nuke:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:00 PM
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6. Yeah, "potentially different labor markets"...
...like the labor market comprised of males, versus that comprised of females? We sure wouldn't want them comparing notes, now, would we?

The thing is: everything this administration says -- every damned thing -- is a lie, an evasion, an obfuscation, or just outright mean-spirited bullshit.

They really did read "1984" as a manual, not as a cautionary tale. And they have succeeded beyond Orwell's wildest dreams.

They are made of lies. They lie as easily as they breathe. If you take even one thing they say at face value, then you're a fool.

That's a pretty mild flame, but yes it is a flame.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:06 PM
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7. thanks, beat me to it
Who could believe a word these people say? When their lips are moving, they're lying.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:07 PM
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8. I hear what you are saying
The thing is, that statement about allowing pay comparisons between different markets (I actually read that as referring to geographic areas) is contained in a statement from the White House. Have you independently determined that the bill in question actually contains such a flaw? I have not, not yet, but intend to go dig it up and trudge through it if no one points the way to the relevant bits.
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BalancedGoat Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:25 PM
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9. If you find anything let us know.
I know better than to accept anything this administration says at face value, but if there's truth to that part may just find myself agreeing with the white house.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:56 PM
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5. I met Lily Ledbetter recently and this makes me furious
Such a brave woman. I fucking hate this country, sometimes.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:12 PM
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10. Good grief....is he STILL FUCKING HERE?
How many more collective Fuck You's can he rattle off before he goes?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:17 PM
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11. bbbbut but but I voted for him because "W" stands for "Women"! Right?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:23 PM
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12. Anyone else remember seeing those "W is for women" stickers?
Yeah, right. I even had a cousin (female) spouting that shit at me during that election season. Hoping that she is experiencing pay inequality. Oh, and her husband is Iranian with family in Iran. Hope all that is working out really well. You go girl!
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