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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:35 PM
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Support the troops? This shit isn't an isolated incident either..
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/103/story/45701.html

The correction came more than a month after (the innocent civilians) were shot at by U.S. soldiers as they sped to work on a road within the secured airport compound.

The original statement said that Mahdi and the two women were "criminals" and that an American convoy on the side of the secured road came under small-arms fire from the vehicle. Soldiers said they shot back. A weapon was found in the debris and two U.S. military vehicles were struck by bullets from the attack, the statement on June 25 said.

"When we are attacked, we will defend ourselves and will use deadly force if necessary," Maj. Joey Sullinger, a spokesman for 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, said in a statement at the time. "Such attacks endanger not only U.S. soldiers but also innocent civilians, including women and children, traveling the roadways of Baghdad."

................except you weren't attacked and they had no weapons. Lying sacks of shit. Gee, I wonder why there's an insurgency?

And Bush sycophant Patraeus continues his rightwing bullshit excuses for staying in Iraq. There were no WMD in Iraq (never were). There is no Al Qaeda in Iraq. But there IS oil.

Get the fuck out of Iraq.


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:38 PM
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1. lying liars who know nothing but lying
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:41 PM
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2. Do you mean withdraw 100% of the troops or leave troops for logistical support, intelligence support
and a counterterrorism strike force?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:46 PM
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4. how about withdraw 100% of the troops, but keep sending the same amount of $$$ we spend now
to rebuild the infrastructure (hospitals, roads, schools, industry) for the Iraqi people? If we keep sending the same amount of money to Iraq, only we aren't there bombing and shooting (and this means the blackwater mercs too) then maybe the Iraqis can work out a representative government that suits them and get their country back.

Oh - they get to VOID all oil contracts too, and rewrite it so the profit remains in Iraq.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:57 PM
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5. I understand, withdraw 100% of U.S. troops and keep sending money that we borrow from China to fund
combat operations with Iraqi troops under the command of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki.

That's a novel military option but I do wonder what strategy and tactics al-Maliki will use because recent history suggests the ones used by Dubya aren't working.

Beyond that, do you think We the People have a moral responsibility to do more given that President Idiot used our superpower forces to create the mess in Iraq?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:06 PM
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6. you misunderstand. I said send the money to rebuild the country. Not to prop up Maliki.
I think we need to pay to rebuild what we have destroyed. I don't think things will be worse in the long term if we leave, tho the short term could be ugly. Kind of like it was ugly for the poor folks who stood up to Saddam believing that GHW Bush would back them - especially since HE told them to rise up. But he turned his back and left them to be slaughtered.

I trust the Iraqis to sort out their own country. They were after all the cradle of civilization. I believe they will find a way to form a government that suits them.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:16 PM
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8. I did misunderstand, mea culpa. Do you believe such funds will get to needy citizens or be lost to
corrupt officials both ours and Iraqi?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:28 PM
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10. One can hope that their are still honorable public servants, but even if only a percentage
of all we spend now to occupy the country gets out to help rebuild it and aid the people - then at least it won't be spent on bombs to slaughter them....

We must of course insist that no American contractors have a role in reconstruction - that in itself should help root out a lot of corruption - or at least OUR culpability.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:38 PM
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11. I hope so. Anything war can do, peace can do better. Enjoy a graphic I cobbled together below.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:43 PM
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12. Love it! Peace, and may our hopes truly have wings to fly, to turn dreams to reality.
:hug:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:42 PM
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3. Apparently people think War happens without hurting and killing Innocent people.
This sort of thing has been happening from the first minute of Shock and Awe to the present.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:11 PM
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7. except it's not reported on CBS, ABC or NBC Evening News.
The cheerleaders for this fucking debacle don't report the disaster they helped to create.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:23 PM
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9. Get the fuck out of Iraq, indeed!!!
Damn them to the seventh level of Hell!

Everytime I hear someone talking about our "boys and girls over there defending this nation" I want to SCREAM!!!

Damn them!!!
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