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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:18 PM
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Talk of Super Secret Session at 10:00pm in Congress
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 03:23 PM by seemslikeadream
Air America Randi Rhodes show


last week?

Steny Heuer and Kucinich coming up


http://www.novamradio.com/live/stream.php
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:21 PM
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1. I hope they don't forget to bring their decoder rings like last time. nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:22 PM
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2. I'm sorry I missed that
What's up
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:25 PM
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3. Glad you mentioned it --- tuning into Randi now at Nova . ..
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 03:29 PM by defendandprotect
Randi wasn't around much of last week so haven't heard her in long time!!!

Whoever took her place STUNK -- !!!!



Oops . . NO Randi today either . . . Randi is in Hawaii ---



Actually, I'm really concerned at the loss of Randi at Air America ---

Nova works for me when I'm home --- however, used to listen to a lot of Air America in the car.

I think this cuts off a lot of LIBERAL radio for most listeners ---



OK . . . so this is a "National Security issue" . . ./???

and the last time this happened was '83 . . . Iran-Contra/????





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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:40 PM
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4. the last time it happened was Iran Contra, how are they gonna fuck us now?
remember the good old days of No Taxation Without Representation. Since we are obviously not being represented (outside of a few in Ohio), why dont we stop paying taxes and following the other laws of this government
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:41 PM
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5. I hope they're busting everyone with offshore accounts at UBS...
there goes half of Congress. I'll wager the split is 70% reeps, 30% dems.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:09 PM
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13. ...and where did the $$ come from . . . drugs? bribes?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:32 AM
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37. "gifts", private foundations they run (they all have 'em now) &
trading profits, for starters.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:48 PM
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41. We have huge profits being made from drugs . . .
obviously some in government have to be connected to that ---

As the British military leader said in Afghanistan commenting on the new peak of heroin

production ....

"...the US government and the Pakistanis LOVE to sell heroin . . . " -- !!!

You can't have a War on Drugs as we have it and not have corruption of government and

police enforcement ---

money laundering thru our major banks --- more than a half trillion a yeard at Citibank?

was evidence of that ---

and the money has to get stashed somewhere?





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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:47 PM
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10. I'm with you.
I can stream Nova at home, but am cut off when I'm driving. I've complained to my local affiliate and hope they bring Randi back. Her replacement just doesn't measure up.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:12 PM
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14. Yeah . . . I had just gotten a bit used to Ed Schultz . . . and he was sounding
Randi-like --- when he was gone ---

Air America sucks --- Thom Hartmann is OK --- but not really what we need to get people

fired up for an election --- !!!


Again --- I'm really concerned that with RAndi gone a lot of LIBERAL stuff is being missed

by average people who would have tuned into Air America. We need to keep up the battle

against Limbaugh --- I'm really concerned.



Especially that it looked to me like an attack reached out for her in the BS about the

performance she gave and the supposed attacks on Ferraro/HRC/???.


And then there was the attack/???? on her in NYC ---

I don't think we ever heard if there were questions about that ---

but bottom line --- RANDI IS GONE ---


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:43 PM
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6. Here's the video
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 03:44 PM by seemslikeadream
Debate about Secret Session in House of Representatives pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byeC0h1Tyk



Dennis Kucinich speaks about secret congress meeting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnbFCbnB24


pt2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDjliZLePF0
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:43 PM
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7. if we know about it, it's not very super secret
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:44 PM
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8. it happened back in March and we are just hearing about it now
sounds pretty damn secretive to me
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:41 PM
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34. i remember when it happened in march
kucinich walked out saying that congress should be transparent. maybe they were sealing the fisa deal or somesuch shit. can't remember much else.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:54 AM
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39. this happened in March?
and we are finding about this now, this has to do with Telecom immunity and all the money that these House Reps took to cover up Steny, what a sneaky bastard he is.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:45 PM
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9. We have no idea what was discussed
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:52 PM
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11. different stories are being "leaked" I'd like them to be confirmed or denied because the "leaks" are
scary as hell.

From one report: from Buzzflash
http://www.buzzflash.net/index.php?search=tag:secret+meeting+of+congress

Here is what was revealed: 1. The imminent collapse of the U.S. Economy to occur sometime in late 2008 2, The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances sometime in mid 2009 3. The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse 4. The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. Citizens” likely to move against the government 5. The detention of those rounded up at The REX 84 Camps constructed throughout the United States 6. The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses 7. The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest 8. The necessary and unavoidable merger of The U.S. with Canada and Mexico establishing The North American Union 9. The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:39 PM
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16. Numerous stories?
The list you have here is the only one I've seen. Are there others?

It is scary shit. Do you know where this list might have originated?

I too would like to have this confirmed or denied somehow. Surely Kucinich is friends with someone who attended that meeting.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:40 PM
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17. I keep seeing the same list of items (word for word)
I keep looking around for more, but I dont hear it. I only wish Dennis hadnt walked out of the meeting.

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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:48 PM
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18. I have seen the same list all over too, for months now.
I have wondered what the detailed reason behind DK's refusal to attend was. Do you suppose he had heard what was really to be discussed and knew it would be an illegal act to attend or something? I mean he could have known through the grapevine what it was about, and decided that he would be formally involving himself if he attended.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:52 PM
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19. today is the first I'm hearing about it. I can believe I missed it
what happened to the story? did it just die and disappear from thought without any resolution. If Congress did discuss the things on that list, we need to know what they are doing about it. Are they planning to round us up and put us in FEMA camps before we revolt? Are they planning on running away from DC to avoid our revolt? Do we need to keep track of Congress and take note whenever three or more leave town? Is it time to stock up on Spam and shotgun shells?

Not that I really care, but what was the DU consensus on the story?
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:02 PM
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21. I can't remember what all was discussed on DU about it.
In fact on thinking about it I heard the story late as well. I think I've known about it since May. If there is truth to it (and even with tinfoil it's not hard for me to see the possibility these days) than I don't see Congress running away or anything like that. If they are privy to such info they will be involved in whatever the government decides to do. The protection of Congress I would assume would include their homes and families in their respective states. There is no way that we could successfully revolt as their pitchforks are bigger than ours. I would imagine we would be the last to know before shit really hits the fan. If money and food are cut off because the economy tanks there would likely be mayhem in many places, especially big cities. Halliburton & etc. would be working overtime.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:38 PM
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29. Yeah, there's the solution
merging the dollar with the peso:sarcasm:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:09 PM
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31. ^^ The New World Order on the way. The EU a few steps ahead of us. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:06 PM
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12. True, but I seem to me that all the male members in congress started
parting their hair on the other side after that meeting...

Hmmmm...

:rofl:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:14 PM
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15. How do we know what it's really about . . . ???
Can you be sure it's about national security? ---

Maybe it's about impeachment?

Maybe it's about the fall of our economy --- ???

Maybe a subject we're unfamiliar with -- ???


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Dissent Is Patriotic Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:57 PM
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20. If anyone knows more please speak up...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:09 PM
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23. It was a few days before the big FISA fight started.
They were just comparing notes on how they were going to accommodate the telecoms without outing themselves for wiretapping. You can see why we have never learned what went on, and why they blew that tinfoil hat nonsense at us instead.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:10 PM
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24. That makes sense. n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:13 PM
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25. It does?!
:wtf:

Since when does Congress do the people's business in secret? :shrug:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:18 PM
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26. since 9/11 "changed everything," ya silly--now the Constitution is written in invisible ink!
and Congress is just there to applaud the magic trick.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:20 PM
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28. I didn't say it was a good thing.
I just said it makes sense that they might distract us from the real issue by throwing out tinfoil. I also have no problem accepting that the horror story could be true, but I like that there is this possible alternative. Putting off their concentration camps for now is a good thing...doesn't sound fun. And I'm totally on board that this whole FISA bullshit and the secret meeting SUCKS! I signed petitions and wrote letters each time this came around and I'm pretty pissed at those who voted for this criminal conspiracy with the fascists!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:40 PM
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30. When was the last time
congress actually DID do the peoples' business?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:18 PM
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33. That's alot easier to believe than the sky falling.
Another cession of "covering our big fat butts."
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:05 PM
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22. 2 months ago-- Harrison just getting transcripts today
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:19 PM
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27. Dennis Kucinich speaks about secret congress meeting! video & Mp3
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/dennis-kucinich-speaks-about-secret-congress-meeting/

Democracy Now!

Mar 14, 2008

House Holds Rare Secret Session on Spy Bill

The House of Representatives postponed a vote on a spy bill Thursday after Democrats agreed
to a request from Republicans to hold a rare secret session to discuss what they termed
classified security matters. It marked the first time a secret session was held in a quarter
of a century and only the sixth time in the House’s history. We speak with Ohio Congressmember
Dennis Kucinich, who refused to attend the secret session.

Real Video Stream

Real Audio Stream

Dennis Kucinich speaks about secret congress meeting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnbFCbnB24

mp3

http://media.switchpod.com/users/democracynow/ftp/dn2008-0314-1.mp3
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:25 PM
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32. Most of the speculation seems to have
originated with this Australian account:

http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-922,00,00.html

...

Writers suggested that the special closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives discussed a lot more than the pending security surveillance provisions.

-snip

Theorists wrote "Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: The imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008, the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009, the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse and advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government.

Also theorised was the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA and the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses and the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest

Other answers included "the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada" (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool), the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

More http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-922,00,00.html">here.


This seems to be the source of most of the specific claims I've seen on this elsewhere... and this only cites "writers" and "theorists."

Who are these "writers?" I'd like to know more.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:31 PM
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36. "Who are these writers?"
Paranoid gits with too much time on their hands.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:26 PM
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35. a double secret session, reminds me of Animal House
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 08:27 PM by carlyhippy
Carly
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:40 AM
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38. Hmmm... oh to be a fly on the wall.
I would've loved to been there.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:38 PM
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40. I would love to be invisible to the shady side or dark side of this filthy administration
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 12:40 PM by alyce douglas
to hear all of the all crimes that have perpetrated on all of us.
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