Great Cars that Sip Fuel..(pic heavy)

[Pavulon]

Just thought I'd post some cars that people may not know are efficient. These range from 15k to 145k.

Jetta Diesel (50 state clean, 45mpg) The base Jetta is a great car, sporty and efficient.



Larger Passat


I love Merc Diesels. Have owned them from 240Ds up to the E class. Good used but they run FOREVER. Safe and comfortable.
E Class (german camry sized car) Not bad used.


(S class, bit more expensive(bit out of my range..)


Finally This is an AUDI RS8 Diesel. This will be a production car.

[yourout]

1. I love my 06 TDI Jetta and am looking at an 09 model with the new diesel.

Now if we could fast track Alge based biodiesel and develop a diesel hybrid that gets 80mpg.

[Pavulon]

2. Diesel is a great technology..

I have an old 240D that gets tinkered with. I have burned "redneck diesel" 1 part #2 and 9 parts filtered cooking oil. Ran like a champ. I would not do that to a modern common rail diesel, or a car worth more than $2500. I take it apart for fun.

I take customers out in the E class and they have no idea it is diesel. It is quiet and has good power. Just like the 240 was in its time it is very safe. No diesel smell. Wife uses it as a commuter car. Great mpg.

I would be hesitant to start pulling parts out of it though. It is a bit more complicated.

Company uses chevy trucks with diesels and excursions diesel they are just rock solid.

Diesel hybrid is a great technology.

[Schema Thing]

6. The first time I saw the reports on the Pruis and the Insight

I thought "VERY cool. Now marry that to a super efficient Diesel and give me a car that gets 70mpg w/o breaking a sweat".





All this pussyfooting around giving consumers huge gains in fuel economy drives me to the edge!

[tridim]

3. Which of those cars is 15k?

Last time I looked at VW diesels I remember they were in the $25k and up range.

I'm fairly happy with my 99 Civic, but I would love to get 10mpg more.

[Pavulon]

9. 18 - 22 for a new jetta diesel where i am.

this is a stripped car. However buying them used is a much better deal.

[davsand]

4. Does it get below freezing where you live?

Years ago we had a family car that was a Diesel engine. I grew up on a farm and we bought Diesel in bulk to power farm equipment. Back then, Diesel was cheap and it made sense for us to give it a try.

We live in Illinois and faced the issue of freezing fuel every winter. My Dad hated that car and celebrated when he got rid of it.

Given the current cost of Diesel, I am wondering what attracts you to a Diesel car these days? Are you producing your own fuel?



Laura

[Pavulon]

10. Yes, mild winters

but it can get very cold. The diesels do not require a plug until 20 below. For work trucks this means never. For my personal car I will plug it in at 20 above, this is not required. Cold starts are easier.

You can add stuff to diesel to make it not gel. This is not as much an issue now with modern blends. Most commercial farms use american made diesel trucks. They are solid.

I do not make it now because of time constraints. I can get b20 in RTP. This runs in modern diesel with no issue.

Unless you had a german made car at that time you had a bum vehicle. Mercedes diesels were decent cars sold.

Over time diesel cars last much longer, cost less, and are proven technology. The Jetta is more fun to drive than a prius and has other benefits.

Diesel fuel is artificially high but it is a superior technology

[flvegan]

5. Mmkay. This runs on biofuel

Actually, the CCRX runs on biofuel, but I couldn't find a great picture of one. Same look, though.

Hey, if you can post that R8, I can post the Koenigsegg.

[Pavulon]

12. Top Gear loves that car..

Pretty cool. The RS8 kicks the big hp diesel down to the S5.

This is "affordable" used and would be insane with a 500HP 750ft/lbs torque motor.

That is a stupid fast setup.



On the track diesels flat powerband and low revs make is a great setup.

[stimbox]

7. Smart fortwo cdi: Lower Fuel Consumption & CO2 Emissions

"The new smart fortwo cdi is even more environmentally friendly than expected: Instead of the previously communicated 90 grams, the CO2 emissions stand at just 88 grams of carbon dioxide per kilometre. The vehicle certification process that has now been completed also established fuel consumption under standard conditions of just 3.3 litres per 100 kilometres. The provisional figure previously given was 3.4 l/100 km. At present there is no more economical way of running a car Even more so than before the new smart fortwo cdi has the lowest CO2 emissions of any car on the market today. At present there is no more economical and climate-friendly car than the smart fortwo cdi. The petrol engine versions of the new smart fortwo also boast impressively low fuel consumption of just 4.7 and 4.9 litres per 100 kilometres respectively. Correspondingly, the CO2 emissions stand at just 112 and 116 grams per kilometre."

http://www.worldcarfans.com/2070228.003/smart-fortwo-cdi-lower-fuel-consumption--co2-emissions

The Smart fortwo CDI gets 71mpg!!!! We cannot get them here because of the nitrous emissions. :(

[Mark E. Smith]

8. Mmmm ... Mercedes Benz

Didn't Hitler drive one of those?

[Pavulon]

11. Probably, But he was a VW fan..

Mercedes had a commercial on their history through the decades. early history, 20, early 30's, they skipped the 40's..

However they do make a good car. I bought a used low millage E class diesel and it is great.

Used they are the same as a loaded camry or acura. 10 year , 300k miles is normal with these cars.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. I love German cars and have had a couple of Audis and a VW BUT even with these fuel savings,

and that they are better for the environment, repairs are very very expensive. As my cars got older, the costs of parts with labor were prohibitive.

A month ago I purchased a 14 year old Nissan Maxima that needed a few things, and I cannot be happier at the easy access and low cost of parts. It also handles as well as my Audis, my VW, and when I switched to Swedish, my Saab. The gas mileage of 21 MPG isn't too bad considering I mostly do local driving.

[Pavulon]

14. That is true.

VW has had electrical issues. Mercedes is generally great but parts are high and labor worse. DIY is easy on old 240D cars. They are simple.

Newer stuff in not DIY.

It depends on how you look at it, I like cars. So I am willing to put up with more crap.

Honda and Toyota make great cars that are basically rock solid, but they lack personality.

But quirky cars are an acquired taste. I could never fault anyone for wanting a car that requires very little overhead.