Is this country really insane enough to elect John McCain?

[Cyrano]

Is there really any question of who is the best person to start to lead us out of the economic, warmongering, immoral, downward-spiraling nightmare which we are now living through?

The only way the Republicans can win this election is if they manage to once again steal it. Short of that, Obama will become the next President of the United States.

I've read far too many posts on DU from those who are planning on sitting out the election, or (horrors) voting for McCain. Please, please, if this is your intent, get your head out of you ass.

Whatever problems you may have with Obama, he's the last, best hope of helping us help ourselves and restoring whatever Democracy we have left after eight years of pure, unadulterated evil.

Almost everyone has a family and will have descendants. Think of them and then vote accordingly.

[bemildred]

1. Nixon, Raygun, GHW Bush, GW Bush.

Heck yes.

[LostInAnomie]

2. That's all fair and good...

... if Americans actually asked themselves "...who is the best person to start to lead us out of the economic, warmongering, immoral, downward-spiraling nightmare which we are now living through?"

If you've been living through the past 8 years you should know they don't.

[mudesi]

3. They election Bush twice, did they not?

Sure, it was stolen, but not without a lot of help from the ignorant masses.

[readmoreoften]

4. Yes.

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. Without question. Where ya been? nt

[Speck Tater]

6. If the are that insane, they will get what they deserve. NT

[Jackpine Radical]

13. But Goddamit, they're taking the rest of us with 'em.

And ya can't even really run from it. The world's too small. Think radiation. Think environmental disaster. Think oil.

[paparush]

7. "elect"??? No. Steal the election in his favor..yes...

[polly7]

8. I don't understand it ..

A brilliant Ph.D. who teaches university up here, a dual citizen, tells me there is no way he can vote for Obama ..... he's admitted he knows the buildup for Iraq was based on lies yet he still will vote for McCain. Oh ...... he also worked for Bechtel. I probably just answered my own question because it seems to me the only people who can justify voting for more of the same are those in the position to profit from it.

[BlueManDude]

9. I expect McCain to win. The GOP will make the elction about trivialities...

as they always do with the witting or unwitting assistance of big media. Obama will poll much better than what his actual results will be. Unless he's up by 10 points going into election day he will lose.

[liberalmuse]

10. God, I hope not.

Not to make light of what I feel was a completely wrong stand on FISA on Obama's part, but no sane person who loves the idea of "America" and "The Constitution" can seriously think of sitting out this election, or worse, voting for McCain. There really is no comparison between the two. McCain is scary, batshit insane, and no more suited to the Presidency than Bush. I sincerely believe that Obama will make an excellent President. I've never completely agreed with leaders I've greatly respected (well, maybe Kennedy), and will speak my mind if I feel they do something that goes against my version of liberal ideals, but I'm not going to throw out the baby with the bathwater, especially so we can get 4 more years of Bush. I might have my tantrums and deeply morose moments of angst, but all it takes is a look at Bush or McCain to snap me the fuck out of it. I can only hope it is likewise with others.

[TexasObserver]

11. The GOP is crooked enough to steal the election, and media are complicit enough to support it.

[malaise]

12. No - the US usually corrects serious mistakes

I doubt if McSame will still be running for office in November.

[ikojo]

14. Jesse Helms and StromThurmond served in the senate for

a very long time. People elected them.

Yes, I think there are people in this country who would not feel bad if John McCain was elected as president.

[Lorentz]

15. Sadly, the majority of Americans pride themselves on being stupid.

They go out of their WAY to make that point. Creationism is one example. Prevailing attitudes on the metric system (and blind adherence to the Imperial system) are another.

[Chovexani]

16. Quit watching Star Wars. I beg you.

Barack Obama is not Obi Won fucking Kenobi. NO ONE PERSON CAN SAVE US. No matter how pretty his words are.

This election will be about stopping the bleeding vs. rubbing salt in the wound. Period. It is going to take a concerted effort on the part of whoever gets the White House, Congress, and the people to fix the meteoric crater eight years of ChimpCo has dug us into.

And quite frankly I don't think anybody has the gumption to make the hard decisions that need to be made to salvage what's left of our Constitution and our nation at this point. Least of all the current batch of Quislings who call themselves congressional Democrats. We are going to have to rebuild from the ground up. Obama will be key in that but you really need to stop huffing glue if you think just electing him is going to magically cure all our ills.

That's what the fuck is wrong with our party, we've been sitting around waiting for secular Moses to set us free, some charismatic figurehead to lead us into the Promised Land. When we should have been building wagons and loading up our tools to build the damn road ourselves.

[Cyrano]

17. No, Obama is not Obi Wan. But for now, to use your phrase,

I'll settle for a president who will stop "rubbing salt in the wound."

On the other hand, there's always the possibility that Obama just might surprise us all. JFK wasn't "JFK" when he was elected. Nor was FDR, "FDR." I, for one, would like to hold out hope for what might come to pass.

[tomreedtoon]

27. Yes, he is. Remember...Obi-Wan was KILLED.

How many times do I have to remind you that Obama is scheduled for assassination? How freaking ignorant are YOU?

[Chovexani]

34. Are you privy to some plans the rest of us aren't?

If you are, please for the love of God alert the Secret Service. I'm sure the Senator's detail and about half the country would be eternally grateful.

If you are just talking shit, please loosen up that tinfoil hat. It's probably fucking up your hair.

[tomreedtoon]

38. The Secret Service are already IN on the plan.

Remember when they called off the police in Dallas from the Obama detail? Now Obama's going to the kill floor, Iraq. Lots of easy stray bullets there. And lots of Halliburton people to do the job.

How naive are you, Chovexani?

[WoodyM]

18. If you lived in South Carolina,

as I do, you would not have any doubts about it.

[Firespirit]

19. To answer your opening question, absolutely yes.

Americans -- people in general, most likely -- are stupid, borderline illiterate, swayed by anything that's packaged prettily enough, and whatever they may say, fundamentally conservative, in the sense of being fearful of change.

Have you seen the new Pixar movie WALL-E? The humans in that are what we're seeing now, minus the super-tech.

[LyndaG]

20. WHO would want another four years of Bush's failed policies?

That's what I keep telling myself. Sure hope sanity prevails.

[Cyrano]

23. Yep. I share your hope.

One of the most horrible things I've learned in life is that stupidity often trumps sanity. I guess I'll never understand why this is so. But I sure as hell hope that this time fate of luck takes a hand and we see Obama being sworn in next January 20th.

[tyedyeto]

21. It's not the neo-cons, it's not the ultra right

But those like my mom who have always voted Rebublican, right or wrong. Even though they are not even close to the top 1%, 10% or even 50% in income, they feel some sort of affinity with the Republican Party.

On social issues, I have asked her where she stands. Surprisingly, to her, when it comes down to women's issues, gay marriage, senior's issues......... she thinks like a Democrat but would never acknowledge it.

Social Security...I asked her, "if I and my brothers and all our off-spring stopped paying into Social Security and you no longer received a check (which the Repug party wants) will you still support the party"? Answer..."Of course, to keep this country debt free". My answer, "The illegal war is what pushes us further and further into debt, not Social Security" Today's seniors have no clue as to what our government has done to drain our retirement system.

Gay marriage..... She has no problem with unmarried couples, be they gay or straight, being allowed the same rights as married couples, but if it came down to a constitutional amendment, she'd be voting against it.

Women's rights (including abortion and birth control).... She will acknowledge that on this issue she thinks like a Democrat.

So, why does she vote Republican? If you have the answer to that question, I'd be so thankful.

[Cyrano]

24. I've experienced the same thing in my family.

It seems inexplicable how people can't make the distinction between their biases and what's best for them and theirs.

As the King says in a song from "The King and I," "Is a puzzlement."

[ngant17]

22. It's not so much as a Pres. McSame

as it will be his vice-president, the probability of Pres. McSame dying in office would be rather high.

The country can really go as far to the right as you can imagine. Until paper ballots and a verified paper trail are put into the election process, America will drift further into a fascist state.

Democracy and secrecy are inversely related. The more secrecy in government, the less democracy. The more democracy in government, the less secrecy. Dept. of Homeland Security is a disguise for the crypto-fascist state we will be facing once McSame and his vice-president are in control.

I'm still holding out for an Obama victory somehow, even with massive fraud and e-trickery in the voting machines.

[Cleita]

25. No it isn't, but our election system isn't better than the one that

enabled Bush to be unelected twice.

[tabasco]

26. Yep. Stupid and/or brainwashed.

Thanks to the republican-owned media!!

[Initech]

28. We were insane enough to give Stupid Jackass two terms.

So what's to say we cant go through another 4 years of that shit? Obama couldn't have an easier time in this election running unopposed.

[dysfunctional press]

29. have you even been paying attention for the past 40 years. of course they are.

btw- the pugs have plenty of experience stealing selections in the electronic age.

and i don't/won't have any descendants- so i'm just going to enjoy the ride, come what may- the scariest roller coasters are the most fun.

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[L0oniX]

31. This country is over full with dumb asses.

[mitchum]

32. Insane AND stupid enough

[NikolaC]

33. Uhm ... Ahhhh ....

Yup!

[bowens43]

35. Despite what many here believe, McCain is a very strong candidate.

MOst Americans like and respect him.

[old mark]

36. Don't you realize where you live?

[salguine]

37. I will never underestimate

the stupidity, gullibility, stupidity, ignorance, stupidity, naivete and stupidity of the American electorate. Never.

[Overseas]

39. Confusion plus disinformation plus the Republican Dribs & Drabs Methods of Vote Stealing

Amid the confused people unsure and voting other than Obama will be the determined Republicans who have become election officials all over America, deciding how many voting machines to distribute to Red vs. Blue counties, circulating caging lists, challenging voter registrations and just using a few strategic memory cards to "fix glitches" in the electronic systems and then you have SURPRISES--

somehow the exit polled Kerry 51, Bush 48 flips as the night goes on.