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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:25 PM Original message |
Frank Rich: "Top Bush Hands Starting to Get Sweaty About Where They Left Their Fingerprints." |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. That should get a big reaction tomorrow. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. This part makes me happy. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. In six months, these "criminals" will have a full pardon |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Too bad a "pardon" won't reach outside U.S. borders. nt |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
103. Bush has already passed a bill that excludes him and anyone in his administartion from being |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Which in itself does not provide international immunity... |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
120. I agree - doubt if they would have international immunity - |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. If impeachment proceeding have begun |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Why would that stop him? |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm not sure, but I believe impeachment proceedings |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Not that I know of. |
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madamesilverspurs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
65. But ...but....but... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
98. Well, not sure why you posted under my post, but |
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madamesilverspurs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Thanks for your response |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2 |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. That means he can't pardon an impeachment, not that he can't pardon while impeached. |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Vague. Can Be Exploited. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
74. It's not vague. "For offenses, except impeachment..." How is that vague? |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
88. Whose Impeachment |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. First, that "vagueness," if it existed, would work against Bush, not for him. |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
112. Orwell's Double Speak Make This All Clear |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #97 |
118. Waittaminnit. Impeachment isn't conviction. I think that means |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. Sigh. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
86. The definition of is is.......... |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Pakistan could pardon Bin Ladden. We'd still kill him. The world won't pardon Cheney |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. You saw Addington. Despicable human being.Hides among his peers |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. "Offenses against the United States" -- can't pardon from the World Court |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
80. Link please. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #80 |
125. Link to the US Constitution? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
91. I think his pardon powers are limited only by those being impeached... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. How can they be pardoned when they haven't been charged? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Wasn't Nixon? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. (Hmph) Yeah ... stay in the U.S. where the people are too cowardly or criminal to do anything. |
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floridablue (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Perhaps the Bushies will sell them a home lot |
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mamameow (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. paraguay |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. That is the best news i have heard all week. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
99. Yeah, I thought about that, too. The hiding place of past war criminals. |
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NancyG (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
82. Paraguay, anyone? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
94. Comforting, yes, and it's |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
104. UAE. No extradition treaty. Rich man's paradise. Halliburton moved their top 2 execs there. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
122. Poetic Justice |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Worse Than Watergate by John Dean! We'll see what the future |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. The New York Times. That should give the story exposure.. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. Will they also be blamed for the next terra attack? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Cheney descended into the dark side to cover up Bush failure to heed bin Laden threat in 2001. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I was a charter member of the Grassy Knoll Society - LIHOP cohort - before it was fashionable. |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. Like I always say, if 9/11 wasn't LIHOP, then... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. I like that. Thanks! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
123. Yep. Always thought that the MIHOPers should pay more attention to the KISS principle |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I disagree with this analysis |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. One would think Rich would be more curious |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. yes, the lack of curiosity on all their parts |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Lack of curiosity? That passive? |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. as opposed to purposefully looking |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. One poster on here used to put up a picture of Republican woman, I think, a |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. They are blatant |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
79. Fundies. The US can do no wrong in their minds, so who would attack it |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
44. What the hell was Rice doing in relation to all these urgent warnings? |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
121. What was Rice doing? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
124. In July 2001, Rice blew off Tenet and CIA briefers. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
61. Rich Is an Opinionator, Not an Investigative Journalist |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
75. Well, Sy Hersch, Robert Parry |
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Buttercup McToots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
57. I agree with you BNL... |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
62. Yeah !!! I'm with the Naked guy above. He's right ... |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. I don't want to insult you |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
113. Pun intended......lol. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
68. I suspect that all those statements are true, too. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
106. Smirk and Sneer are connected to AQ Khan and Pakistani H-Bomb through BCCI |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #106 |
131. thank you |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
54. The question remains-why did * fail to act when there were warnings from so many |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
87. because they were busy |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
108. They needed a pretext for war with Iraq. September 11 made USA mad at 'Arabs.' |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. IIRC, CIA didn't have flight school info...that was in 7/01 FBI memo from Phoenix office sent |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
111. They wiretapped so they could blackmail the Dems |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #111 |
132. that wiretapping was probably the first thing Cheney |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
116. My vote is on the New Pearl Harbor event. It seems they knew |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Nixon White House was "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight" compared to this cabal ... |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. I hope Frank ups his body guard contigent. |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. Strange |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
69. It's possible that the journalists are trying to send us signals. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. What on earth do they have to worry about? It's not like anyone's going to do anything more... |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. That's what's so frightening. |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. It unfolded too perfectly... |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Remember, These Jabroni Said They Reserve The Right To ... |
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rusty fender (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
77. Only problem for Bush is |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. "This time the crime is worse than the cover-up..." |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R, and bookmarked. nt |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. K&R n/t |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
24. k&r |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
25. "9/11? I was, um, too busy. Smirk." - Commander AWOL |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. This is why the Unitary Executive theory is garbage |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. I Don't Know |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I wouldn't count on that, Me. |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
38. Mayer's "Darkside" to be released 7/15. I ordered it yesterday. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
39. If 9-11 was all preventable, let it forevermore ring from the rafters: LIHOP, LIHOP, |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Oh, 9/11 was preventable alright...Weren't there over 60 warnings to the |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Everyone knows this, but the Democratic Congress continues to enable junior |
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noel711 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
41. My two cents on this revelation...? |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. blashemy i tell you blasphemy |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
42. The Slobodan Milosovicz suite |
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nradisic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. As a Serb I second that... |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
49. Thank you again, Mr. Rich |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. Evil allways leaves it's calling card |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
51. The main difference with the Nixon/Watergate Era, |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Exactly. Republicans are now a compliant Reichstag; Dems are enablers. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Not alone, but it's a small minority without much of a stage |
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young_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Don't forget Dan Rather |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
95. It still shocks me... |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
119. and don't forget |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. The reason that Rethugs 'joined' |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. What Nellie! Would love to hear more about "international and grassy knoll" issues |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
56. Is there anything that can stop Bush from issuing a mass pardon? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Who is going to stop him? Not Congress. |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
59. The crime is worse than the cover up, |
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young_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
70. One wonders just how bad it has to get before people notice |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
72. They have to start worring about being Charged With MURDER in the First |
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CubicleGuy (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
73. As sure as night follows day... |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
76. "But we were only doing what we were told to do." |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
81. Asscroft; "I don't want to hear about that anymore" = LIHOP or |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
85. Any e-mails will still be caught up in the "natural security" wiretapping . . . |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
92. “The Dark Side” ...see it here... |
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Erda (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
93. To me Frank Rich's article is somewhat of a smoke screen . . . |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
96. interesting link here |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
100. I reread "The Final Days" a few months ago and the Nixon years |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
107. K&R.nt |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
110. "Nixon’s operatic boozing and weeping" |
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LuckyLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Yes. Extensive documentation of Tricky Dick in meltdowns with various aides, |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
115. 385 comments on this on the NY Times as of 5:20 EDT. Never saw so many. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
126. K & R |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
128. Greasy republicon hand prints all over the place |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
129. The editor's selection from the comment section. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
130. Here's to hoping they are arrested, convicted, and hang. What's Pelosi's office number again? |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
133. It's another kick... |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
134. Let me KICK to keep this story up there. Sadly very true. |
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