Can Valerie Plame talk about Brewster-Jennings without going to Leavenworth?

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Suppose that, for the sake of argument, the Saudis (and their Big Oil/Administration friends) were working to get their own A-Bomb. (Far fetched, I know, but humor me here…)

Now, also suppose that Brewster-Jennings was tracking these developments. Now, Cheney/Libby/Rove/Bush out Plame and, bam, Brewster-Jennings is out-of-business. So, can Valerie Plame tell reporters all about the Saudis? Wouldn’t that be a serious Federal offense?

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1. CIA says no--they are blocking her book

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16498076/site/newsweek

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8. Thanks. That's what I thought....

There are some "Concern trolls" who are complaining that Joe Wilson should let his wife speak. Well, turns out she can't.

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2. I'll have to make another sig image like I have of Sibel now...

Perhaps make a whole series of postage stamps of all that are now being gagged!

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3. Yes she could be in deep shit

if she did that, WH clears all ex CIA spook books, etc.

More likely she had info on who wasn't looking for the nuclear gear, and that didn't fit the neo-con propaganda agenda. Or that certain neo-cons were involved in delivering such technologies to the wrong people.

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9. Brewster Jennings also kept an eye on ARAMCO...

and the closer you get to the whole truth of who controls ARAMCO and who directs its trillions of petro-dollars, the closer you get to who is directing this whole disastrous BushCo Middle East policy.

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10. As far as I'm concerned

the bankers control every political move made everywhere.

Right now the mechanism for hoovering wealth upward is still production and slave labor. Production needs power and the oil tank is showing signs of limited supply.

No nation can produce without oil, coal etc, and when production fails so will the fiat currency.

I see no way we can produce enough goods for export to counter the deficit before the oil runs out, global warming may very well be caused by our own hand, but the call to reduce emissions will go out long and strong to the individual to sacrifice first so that industry can stave of the repo man from the door of the politician who racked up the bill.

The military industrial prison complex will have taken their profits and ran, leaving front men in rags to answer the door of the big house, as we starve in the backyard.

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12. May I recommend a good read:

Here's a lecture from a UC Davis prof on the history of oil, with a special eye on the formation of OPEC:

http://www.geology.ucdavis.edu/~cowen/~GEL115/115CH13oil.html

Note that Iranian and Iraqi oil was purposely kept off the market, enhancing the "swing producer" role of the Saudis. In 1972, Rockefeller agrees to give ARAMCO control of the oil and in 1973 the Saudis use this "swing producer" role to cause the price of oil to skyrocket. And the US Congress could say nothing because the Saudis, a sovereign nation, are outside their jurisdiction. Cute, huh?

And speaking of the Iranian and Iraqi oil that was purposely kept off the market, now that Saudi oil is probably running out, we find a pretext to invade Iraq (and Iran????) so that our troops sit astride what may be the largest remaining reserves of oil.

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13. Yeh, Ill check it out

But another part of that story is Nixon pulling us off the gold standard in 76 cause the French were cashing out at $35 an oz. He made an "arrangement" with SA to sell only in dollars and the petro dollar was born.

Golds running 650 now, and those French are to blame for all our problems, DAMN THEM.:sarcasm:

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14. Thanks for the link!

My hubby was in the oil & gas industry for a couple of decades. He will want to read it.

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4. Leavenworth? Isn't that a prison just for the military?

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5. I seem to recall former Sen. Bob Graham saying that he wanted to tell more...

about the Saudis and 9/11, but he couldn't without going to Leavenworth.

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7. OK, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

"In fact the two facilities are unrelated institutions."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leavenworth_Federal_Prison

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11. The part I remember him saying was

GWEN IFILL: Senator Graham, are there elements in this report, which are classified that Americans should know about but can't?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: Yes, going back to your question about what was the greatest surprise. I agree with what Senator Shelby said the degree to which agencies were not communicating was certainly a surprise but also I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States.

I am stunned that we have not done a better job of pursuing that to determine if other terrorists received similar support and, even more important, if the infrastructure of a foreign government assisting terrorists still exists for the current generation of terrorists who are here planning the next plots.

To me that is an extremely significant issue and most of that information is classified, I think overly-classified. I believe the American people should know the extent of the challenge that we face in terms of foreign government involvement. That would motivate the government to take action.

GWEN IFILL: Are you suggesting that you are convinced that there was a state sponsor behind 9/11?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down, make the further case, or find the evidence that would indicate that that is not true and we can look for other reasons why the terrorists were able to function so effectively in the United States.

GWEN IFILL: Do you think that will ever become public, which countries you're talking about?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now. And, we need to have this information now because it's relevant to the threat that the people of the United States are facing today.


He is definitely talking about a forign government being protected here, but he does not say who. There is more evidence pointing towards that name we dare not speak, (and neither did Graham) than the fact that some malcontents from Saudi were involved. I've seen no reporting of the Saudi leaders having contact with anyone associated, Pakistan for sure.

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6. I think Brewster Jennings is a key. I wish someone would look in Bob Ney's background.

Don't get me wrong here, Bob Ney is a schmuck. It was his office where HAVA was written, and he did favors for Abramoff that got him where he is now, but...

It has been long rumored in Ohio that Ney had a CIA background. He worked in Iran in the 80's and was fluent in Farsi(the only one in Congress who is). I have read that he was in some way connected to Brewster Jennings. Recently it was written that it was Ney who brought Rove a diplomatic request for cooperation from Iran:

Monday, February 26th, 2007
Ex-Congressional Aide: Karl Rove Personally Received (And Ignored) Iranian Peace Offer in 2003


While the Bush administration continues to insist it has no plans to go to war with Iran, the New Yorker magazine is reporting the Pentagon has created a special panel to plan a bombing attack on Iran that could be implemented within 24 hours of getting the go-ahead from President Bush. According to investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, the planning group was established within the office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in recent months.
In response to the report, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman denied the US was planning to go to war with Iran and said "To suggest anything to the contrary is simply wrong, misleading and mischievous." Whitman went on to say the White House is continuing to address concerns in the region through diplomatic efforts.

This comes against the backdrop of last week's allegation that Bush's chief advisor Karl Rove personally received a copy of a secret offer from the Iranian government to hold negotiations four years ago. The Bush administration decided to ignore the grand bargain offer. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice recently claimed she had never even seen the document. At the time Iran said it would consider far-reaching compromises on its nuclear program, relations with Hezbollah and Hamas and support for a Palestinian peace agreement with Israel.

Rove's involvement was revealed by an aide to former Republican congressman Bob Ney. The aide, Trita Parsi, said Ney was chosen by the Swiss Ambassador in Tehran to carry the Iranian proposal to the White House because he knew the Ohio Congressman to be the only Farsi-speaking member of Congress and particularly interested in Iran.

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AMY GOODMAN: And he then got this proposal to the man you worked for, Congressmember Ney?

TRITA PARSI: Exactly. I was an advisor to Bob Ney at the time. And Tim met with Bob and handed over the proposal to him. And Bob afterwards sent it to be hand-delivered to the White House to Karl Rove, and Karl Rove called back within two hours, and they had a brief discussion about the proposal.

AMY GOODMAN: And what did Karl Rove say?

TRITA PARSI: Well, he basically said that it was an intriguing proposal. He first wanted to know if it authentic, and the congressman assured him that it was, according to what the Swiss ambassador had said. And we have to remember, the Swiss ambassador would not be handing over proposals to the United States unless they were authentic. The Swiss ambassador’s work has been requested by the US, not by the Iranians. So he is basically fulfilling a mission that has been given to him by the United States.

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AMY GOODMAN: What has Ney said about this -- I mean, now disgraced, involved with the Abramoff scandal, in jail -- what are his comments?

TRITA PARSI: Well, I can't speak for him, but I think there may be some indications from him in which he will come out with his side of the story, as well.




http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/26/157241


Perhaps, was he trying to win the trust of the Bush administration in his role of GOP congressman and got set up for a fall? I don't know but it sure seems worth while to investigate. I would love to see him subpoenaed.