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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:28 PM
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FISABUSTER!-Live Video: Feingold-Dodd filibuster of wiretap bill
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 08:30 PM by kpete
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:32 PM
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1. Will SOMEBODY please explain to me
why this is happening NOW -- at 9:30 in the evening?

WHO determines WHEN a filibuster begins?

I was trying to get these questions answered in February, too, to no avail.

And WHY isn't the Senate chamber filled with Dems showing support for Dodd?


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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:45 PM
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7. Here's your answer
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:YHyyGpFQVFIJ:www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30360.pdf+filibusters+schedule&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

<snip>

Scheduling Filibusters

Contemporary filibusters usually are fairly courteous affairs. The Senate’s daily
schedule normally is arranged so that filibusters are not unduly disruptive or
inconvenient to Senators. One way to make conducting a filibuster more costly and
difficult is to keep the Senate in session until late at night, or even all night, requiring
the participating Senators to speak or otherwise consume the Senate’s time. During
some contentious filibusters of the 1950s, cots were brought into the Senate’s
anterooms for Senators to use during around-the-clock sessions.

Today, all-night sessions are very unusual. The Senate may not even convene
earlier or remain in session later when a filibuster is in progress than it does on other
days. One reason may be that filibusters are not the extraordinary and unusual
occurrences that they once were. Another may be that Senators are less willing to
endure the inconvenience and discomfort of prolonged sessions.

The latter point is important because late-night or all-night sessions putas much
or more of a burden on the proponents of the question being debated than on its
opponents. The Senators participating in the filibuster need only ensure that at least
one of their number always is present on the floor to speak. The proponents of the
question, however, need to ensure that a majority of the Senate is present or at least
available to respond to a quorum call or roll call vote.
If, late in the evening or in the
middle of the night, a Senator suggests the absence of a quorum and a quorum does
not appear, the Senate must adjourn or at least suspend its proceedings until a
quorum is established. This works to the advantage of the filibustering Senators, so
the burden rests on their opponents to ensure that the constitutional quorum
requirement always can be met
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:51 PM
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11. It's possible Republicans tried to push a vote through
in the last hour or two (thanks for info).
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:52 PM
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13. Thank you!
I've looked it up before, but never found an explanation I was able to understand -- like this one you provided.

I think we should harken back to the 1950's and bring in those cots.

Thanks again!

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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:37 PM
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24. Inserted at wrong spot...
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 09:39 PM by RNdaSilva
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:35 PM
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2. Yikes! Thanks!...
God Damn. I didn't know. Go Dodd!
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:36 PM
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3. On C-SPAN2 (n/t)
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:47 PM
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9. dang!
i just found out today that comcast cancelled cspan2!

ellen fl
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:56 PM
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15. Watch online (LINK)
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:03 PM
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17. I don't think they can, (legally) but then they ARE the Telecoms!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:12 PM
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20. we still have it...
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:10 PM
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26. We still had cspan2 until a few weeks ago, Comcast said
they moved it to higher channel. So even though we pay for basic digital, we can only get cspan2 on TV's that have an actual box. Unfortunately the TV that is near my computer does not have the additional digital box, we already pay for three boxes in other rooms. someone posted the other day that MSNBC is moving to a higher channel in their neighborhood, so that could be next???

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:14 AM
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29. sorry, i should have said they dropped it from my package.
i have the super duper most-you-can-buy platinum package with cable internet and now comcast are telling me i have to pay additional for cspan2! i guess i will have to check that out. greedy bastards!

ellen fl
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:16 AM
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30. Comcast is really shit company
Time to switch to something else. Maybe Verizon or Satellite?
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:56 PM
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31. i can't . . . comcast has a monopoly here. eom
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:39 PM
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4. Go get 'em Senators!!
:patriot:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:41 PM
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5. Dodd, "How many lessons do we need to learn!"
Why this late at night? I'm glad they are doing this, but this bill should never even been drawn up.








"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:44 PM
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6. I just wrote to my senator Dodd and thanked him for doing this. True patriot.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:45 PM
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8. So where's all the people who just KNEW the Senate..

...was going to pass this without thought?? I guess they were WRONG!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:50 PM
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10. no one cares who is right or wrong
we only care whether or not our representatives will protect our constitution and serve "We the People's" best interests.

hoping, kp
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:51 PM
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12. Indeed
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:53 PM
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14. Well then..

....they shouldn't act like someone's crazy for having a different take on what's possible in the future.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:03 PM
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16. They're a long way from stopping this juggernaut.
It will come down to a cloture vote as soon as a quorum is present, and then it will be all over. Or not.

:scared:
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:57 PM
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28. Or not?
Depends on the Dems...count noses.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:11 PM
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18. Dodd defending the rule of law.
Awesome to see.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:12 PM
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19. Is Dodd the first speaker?
I'm just tuning in.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:15 PM
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21. Things to do, CALL these two in the morning and applaud them
for standing by the Fourth Ammendment
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:18 PM
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22. Great speech from Senator Dodd..the rule of law or the rule of men...nt
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:22 PM
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23. Fillibuster continues tomorrow...
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:40 PM
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25. Invoking of Cloture Rule not likely, e.g. ...
this fillibuster could succeed.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:44 PM
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27. thanks for posting this. i guess i missed all the fun. but apparently
the fun begins all over again tomorrow.
good.
i like fun--especially SERIOUS fun.
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