Please Chose To Live

[easttexaslefty]

Two important numbers:
National Hotline :[phone]
National Hopeline: 1 800 784 2433

If you are having suicidal thoughts, take action now, before they get worse, before they are out of control!

TALK WITH SOMEONE
If someone is home with you, PLEASE, tell that person how you feel right now {or call a dependable friend or family member}

CONTACT A PROFESSIONAL
or if you have a counselor or medical doctor, PLEASE call him right now and tell aprofesional that you are having suicidal thoughts.

CALL A HOTLINE
If you don't have a close family member, friend or counselor nearby to help you, PLEASE call one of the numbers below and tell the person answering how you feel.
National hotline: [phone] TALK
National Hopeline 1 800 SUICIDE
Your local emergency help: 911

THERE IS HELP IF YOU REACH OUT!

[Taverner]

1. Did something happen?

[easttexaslefty]

2. Yes

A person dies by suicide evey 16 minutes in the US
32,000 people in the US die by suicide yearly
Suicide is the 5th leading cause of death amoung 5-14 year olds
Suicide is the 4th leading cause of death for adults between 18-65

[bananas]

5. And we'll see a lot more attempts as the economy stresses people out

Here's one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3507758
Thanks for posting those numbers, you may have saved some lives.

[easttexaslefty]

9. The ones left behind

will never be the same, forever altered, forever damaged

[Th1onein]

13. I have plans to take my own life.....not now, but sooner or later....

I don't want to suffer and suffer and suffer, before I die. I've seen too many fight for their lives and suffer horribly for it. As soon as I get some disease or affliction that I feel I don't want to go through the hassle of being treated for, I'm history.

I do worry about my family and the ones that I leave behind, but they know my feelings about this.

[easttexaslefty]

14. I do understand, however

The damage left behind from a suicide is unbelievely horrible. Believe me, I know.

[Th1onein]

17. Death is unbelievably horrible, no matter what.

I hope that I can educate my family enough, before the time comes, so that they will not be damaged. These are MY wishes, for how I live MY life and MY death out; they are going to have to understand that and be at peace with it. I think that it is possible.

[easttexaslefty]

18. I respect your views

I can only speak from my own experience. My parents both died from cancer and yes,that along with other diseases can be a very ugly death. But, My loved one that died at his own hands...oh my god, the agony that has been in the lives of those that loved him has been the worst thing ever... beyond comprehension painful

[easttexaslefty]

19. I forgot to add

sometimes when suicide is attempted or completed, the act then becomes an option in the lives of other in his/her life.

[Karenina]

25. Death is a natural consequence of life.

Everything that lives on this planet eventually dies. Whether that inevitability is "horrible" or "good" is nothing more than a value judgement. We have no control over being born into this world. I have few problems with those who decide they've reached the wrong address or have had enough of the experience on this plane.

[Th1onein]

28. That is very true.

We don't choose to be born and we cannot leave life by any other means other than dying. It is, though, OUR personal choice as to how we want to live our lives, and experience our deaths. I think that things are not just black and white, but that there are shades of gray in between. And I think that the hanging on to life, beyond where you should, in terms of suffering, is painful for both the person doing the dying and the person watching.

[easttexaslefty]

30. Okay, you're talking about euthanasia

I can respect your feelings on that. Most suicides are not a matter of euthanasia. When a healthy person suicides they are often in emotional pain and many times that can be fixed by therapy, medications or time. Or it may be a temporary situation and the act is carried out impulsively. Can you see the difference?

[easttexaslefty]

29. Perhaps then

you have never been the mother,father,son ,daughter,or sibling of one who has committed suicide. Maybe you don't understand the guilt and the unanswered questions a suicide will leave in it's wake. And let me ask you this...how about the impact a suicide leaves on the person who finds the body? This is not about quilting or blaming anyone...but there are serious consequences to the ones left behind if they have a emotional connection to the person. we can debate euthenasha...that's a different issue.

[Karenina]

34. I found the body and am well aware of the issues.

[easttexaslefty]

37. Then you must be a much stonger person than I

[Karenina]

38. Maybe just older, having had the advantage of time

to sort it out. I TOTALLY SUPPORT your message, etl! Too often it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. On the other hand, I feel that our collective acculturation gives us a distorted view of death. We are NOT taught to accept it as part of life, rather something to be avoided at all costs. We are barely able to discuss circumstances and options cogently. The stigma that accompanies suicide is not useful. It took me DECADES to accept and understand my father's decision. I wish we were all able to speak more openly about choosing death.

[tavalon]

35. Even, if the person lives, the damage done to family is huge

I'm still recovering from a family members three attempts in the last three years.

[rwheeler31]

3. Thank you

[easttexaslefty]

11. 90% of all people

who die by suicide have a diagnosable psychiatric disorder at the time of their death, such as,
major depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia,PTSD, or a personality disorder.
Also there can be genetic predispositions. Drugs used to treat other conditions can cause suicidal thought and ideation. People with impulsively issues can be at risk

[flamin lib]

4. Thanks, Easttex.

the post that inspired Easttex already has 13 recs and it's too late to help the subject of that post.

Get this to the greatest page fast.

[easttexaslefty]

8. Suicide need to be brought out of the darkness

And into the light

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

12. The realities of the spike in numbers and incidence of...

Suicide and attempted suicides needs to be rammed down the throats of every politician in this nation, no matter what level. Used to shame them in having failed at their responsibilities, for the blame lies at their feet. They enabled and allowed circumstances to bring us to this point. They deserve to wear that responsibility around their necks like an albatross for the rest of their days.

I am through with this disconnect between average and struggling citizens and their political leaders. It is time that leadership started working for us, instead of against us.

[easttexaslefty]

15. I agree, and suicide survivors

in my opinion,have a responsibility to speak out and be a witness for the devastation suicide leaves in its wake.

[uppityperson]

6. k&r

[lonestarnot]

7. K & R!

[TheWatcher]

10. Could not kick and reccommend this higher

And Thank You for posting it easttexaslefty.

Having stared down at that particular abyss once or twice in my own life, the importance of this post and the information therein cannot be stressed highly enough.

DO NOT GIVE UP. REACH OUT.

There is Help and there is Hope.

Even when it seems so far away from being so.

[easttexaslefty]

16. You're welcome

Suicide has been swept under the rug long enough

[stillcool]

20. Mental health..

is still a shameful issue. Sucking it up, and bootstraps are the preferred methods of dealing with any illness. Sometimes I think it is preferable to be a hopeless drunk, than to admit you have emotional issues.

[Hydra]

21. Death is a tragedy only to the living

If you want everyone to want to live, help make the world worth living in.

I don't blame anyone for giving up. All the people I know who did had VERY good reasons.

[easttexaslefty]

22. Yes it is a tragedy to the living

that's my point

[Hydra]

23. So care about what the suicider is going through

Don't try to guilt them about the people they are leaving behind.

[easttexaslefty]

24. dude, I kinda do

I one of the ones left behind. My son hung himself and I found him . His car was reposed at work and he was to ashamed to let anyone know. He leaves behind a grieving mother, a distraught brother and a broken hearted step-dad along with many many sad friends

[Hydra]

26. I'm sorry for your loss

But it happened in my family, too. In fact, there is reason to believe it was not a suicide, but a murder.

I was devastated until I got the whole story- the drugs, the gambling, a car accident that left him neurologically damaged on his left side. In his case, he's happier in the afterlife.

In his case, though, he was ignored until he died. Then, my family canonized him. The argument that he should have endured until a natural death(assuming he wasn't murdered) rings hollow in his case, and others I've seen since.

[easttexaslefty]

27. so be it for you........

but my experience and the experiences of all the people I have met since, who have lost their sons, daughter, father's, mother's and siblings to suicide would disagree that it's a viable option

[sammythecat]

31. That's too awful for words. I'm sorry for your son and family.

As for your post, ever word you've said is the truth. I don't believe you're trying to "guilt" anyone, and you shouldn't have to defend what you've said.

[easttexaslefty]

32. Thanks

I really am not trying to guilt anyone...

[Beacool]

33. How terrible!!!!

I'm so sorry for your loss and that of your family.

I think that people sometimes feel overwhelmed and don't know how to cope with their problems. It helps if one compartmentalizes one's difficulties (I remember when Bill was president and he was criticized for doing so, but I agreed with him then and I still do now). One needs to take one problem at a time and deal with it, you can't bundle them all or you won't see an out and may become desperate.

Your son must have thought that the shame of losing the car and telling his family was too great. If he had only dealt with the issue he probably would now laugh and think how silly it was to want to take his life over a car. What a waste of a young life!!!!

My heart goes out to you, take care!!!

[Midlodemocrat]

36. You are wonderful for posting this. Danny is so proud of you.

I believe he is watching you and so very, very proud of you and so very sorry for hurting you.

:hug:

[AlCzervik]

39. Thank you for posting that.

:thumbsup: