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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:21 PM
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Lot of End of Civiliation (western or otherwise) threads today
Makes for a fun day of DU.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:22 PM
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1. ahhh.. Monday blues
You know.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:26 PM
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2. Must be
I've had a month off as I transition to a new job so the Monday's don't get to me as much right now.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:27 PM
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3. For some I believe it's actually Wishful Thinking.
However, you are correct, it makes for a entertaining day.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:30 PM
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5. Totally Agree
There are a few here on DU that can't wait for the world as we know it to end so they can tell us how right they were. The only consolation I have if they actually end up being right is that there won't be an internet for them to tell me about it on.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:28 PM
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4. It's hard to end civilization as we know it. Believe me, I've tried.
It's just so... so.... addicting!
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Cassius23 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:34 PM
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6. You noticed that too?
I stayed away from DU for awhile for mental health reasons(seriously, I had/have depression and honestly couldn't deal) and just started coming back. Usually for every "the world is going to end omg there's nothing we can do let's just lay down and die" thread/post there are about two or three "things suck, let's do X to change it" threads/posts.

Today that seems to be the opposite case.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:48 PM
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7. Well, realistically, our species has been on a race suicide mad dash for decades
The nuclear, chemical and biological horrors that can be unleashed in moments by psychopaths within governments is truly mind boggling ... not to mention the high risk of, whoops, accident and malfunction.

Blind faither optimists like to dismiss such concerns by saying that throughout history, man has worried about The End. And true enough, largely due to religious beliefs, many have.

What they fail to consider though is that it's only been a very, very short period of time that our species has developed and lived with such extinction-ensuring technologies. This is but one of a long list of dire concerns facing civilization when a corporate/state nexus puts War Pigs like Bushco into positions of reckless, profits-over-people power. They themselves rely on that degree of denial: What's the problem? :shrug: It's their mantra.

The upshot of course is that once things get bad enough that it forces more people to wake up and take notice, it serves to mobilize greater action.

So there's my sunny take on this subject ;)

"No age has ever been so self-conscious as ours. At any rate, the quality of journalism the modern age has turned out in the process of its own self-analysis already overflows our archives and, were it not that most of it is doomed to perish, would be a dull burden to hand down to our descendants. The task still goes on, as it must, for the last word has not been spoken, and modern man seems even further from understanding himself than when he first began to question his own identity. Of documentation of external facts we have had enough and to spare, more than the squirrel-like scholars will ever be able to piece together into a single whole, enough to keep the busy popularizers spouting in bright-eyed knowledgeability the rest of their days; but of the inner facts-of what goes on at the center where the forces of our fate first announce themselves-we are still pretty much in ignorance, and most of the contemporary world is caught up in an unconscious and gigantic conspiracy to run away from these facts. Hence the necessity of returning to a subject that only appears to be well worn. With civilization, as with individuals, the outer fact is often merely the explosion resulting from accumulated inner tension, the signs of which were plentifully present, though none of the persons concerned chose to heed them."

~ William Barrett, Irrational Man: A Study in Existential Philosophy
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Cassius23 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:55 PM
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8. It is true things are that serious...
But, perhaps rehashing the precise extent to which we are absolutely positively going to turn ourselves into a fine red mist like some Dali-esque meat grinder isn't the best way to prevent us as a civilization from doing just that.

Besides, humanity has a habit of doing the right thing...after every possible other option has been exercised(paraphrase, Winston Churchill).



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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:00 PM
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9. It's one of those debates where many will say you're concerned to a fault if you're concerned at all
Who knows...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:03 PM
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10. It's because Carlin died...... it will pass....
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:03 PM
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11. That tends to happen when Congress trashes the 4th ammendment and gives Bushco a get out of jail...
free card, all in one bill. For no f-ing reason that I can comprehend. The GOP are flabregasted at how much the Dems gave away. I am appalled and think that we now have all the conditions necessary for dictatorship.

arendt
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