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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:05 AM
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Does anyone have copies of the PNAC documents?
Their website is down and I'm looking for any copies of the documents they had on their site. Thanks in advance.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:09 AM
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1. well so it is...
"this account has been suspended. Please contact the billing/support dept."

www.newamericancentury.org

:rofl:
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:12 AM
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3. Wow, these Rethugs--loaded, but still don't pay their bills! nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:13 AM
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4. This should work..
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.newamericancentury.org
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:09 AM
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2. The PNAC site has been down-purposefully and permanently? for
awhile. Here's an old thread on intro to PNAC I found. Maybe you can find what you're looking for from links in here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5103309
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:17 AM
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5. Thanks, but according to Wikipedia the sites only been down
for a few weeks, so I don't think they took it down because they didn't want people to read their stuff. It's been available for 10 years.

I used to have a copy of their "Rebulding America" .pdf file, but I must have deleted it some time ago. That's the one I'm looking for.

I guess this illustrates the problem with relying on links for archiving information. Once a site is gone, the links become useless.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:27 AM
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6. This link should work...if not
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 12:10 PM
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8. I Have a Copy If That Archive Site Doesn't Have It
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:57 PM
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15. maybe their mission is accomplished or maybe they are just
revising it:scared:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 12:01 PM
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7. Download it here:
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 12:49 PM
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9. Ghost, you rule! Thank you!
:loveya:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:53 PM
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14. I've tried to archive what I can from the PNAC site...
We need to keep track of this group, imho...

:hug:

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:21 PM
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10. Do you have the letter sent to Clinton from 1998?
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:27 PM
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11. Here it is!
Archived from: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

PNAC letters sent to President Bill Clinton

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.


Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.


Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

Archived from: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:28 PM
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12. Many thanks.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:51 PM
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13. Thanks, I didn't have that one... I have more PNAC stuff here:
http://www.neoconunderground.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=108

that I'm in the process of moving to the congressunderfire site, as I'm letting this domain expire. They'll be up for a few more days, grab them while you can...

Peace!

Ghost

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