I think Iran will be attacked on November 8, 2008, 1:01am that Saturday morning

[whistle]

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Bomb Iran? What's to Stop Us?

By Ray McGovern
June 19, 2008

It’s crazy, but it’s coming soon – from the same folks who brought us Iraq.

Unlike the attack on Iraq five years ago, to deal with Iran there need be no massing of troops. And, with the propaganda buildup already well under way, there need be little, if any, forewarning before shock and awe and pox – in the form of air and missile attacks – begin.

This time it will be largely the Air Force’s show, punctuated by missile and air strikes by the Navy. Israeli-American agreement has now been reached at the highest level; the armed forces planners, plotters and pilots are working out the details.

Emerging from a 90-minute White House meeting with President George W. Bush on June 4, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the two leaders were of one mind:

“We reached agreement on the need to take care of the Iranian threat. I left with a lot less question marks I had entered with regarding the means, the timetable restrictions, and American resoluteness to deal with the problem. George Bush understands the severity of the Iranian threat and the need to vanquish it, and intends to act on that matter before the end of his term in the White House.”

Does that sound like a man concerned that Bush is just bluff and bluster?

A member of Olmert’s delegation noted that same day that the two countries had agreed to cooperate in case of an attack by Iran, and that “the meetings focused on ‘operational matters’ pertaining to the Iranian threat.” So bring ‘em on!

A show of hands please. How many believe Iran is about to attack the U.S. or Israel?

<MUCH MORE HERE>

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/061908c.html

[varelse]

1. From the source article, "The Iran Trap"

From the source article, "The Iran Trap"

House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, in a letter to President Bush on May 8, threatened to open impeachment proceedings if Bush attacked Iran. The letter is a signal that planning for strikes on Iran is under way and pronounced.

“Our concerns in this area have been heightened by more recent events,” Conyers wrote. “The resignation in mid-March of Admiral William J. ‘Fox’ Fallon from the head of U.S. Central Command, which was reportedly linked to a magazine article that portrayed him as the only person who might stop your Administration from waging preemptive war against Iran, has renewed widespread concerns that your Administration is unilaterally planning for military action against that country. This is despite the fact that the December 2007 National Intelligence Estimate concluded that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in the fall of 2003, a stark reversal of previous Administration assessments.”

In fact, the "Iran Trap" may be one of the threats that only the threat of impeachment can counter, and we can not seem to find the collective will to force that action.

Unfortunately, the source articly he's quoting from does not treat the presumptive Democratic nominee very kindly, not is it particularly friendly to the current regime in power in Israel. Those two facts will probably distract from the very frightening reality that we are being steered toward yet another deadly quagmire in the Middle East, at a time when we very desparately need to change course.

[IDemo]

2. Unfortunately, Ray McGovern errs here:

"there need be no massing of troops."

As I pointed out yesterday, containing the Iranian nuclear 'threat' is only the cover story for regime replacement and control of energy resources. That will require boots on the ground, period.

[whistle]

3. Not if Bush and his neocon cronies go atomic! The very nature of insanity is that reason

...and rational judgments are abandoned for delusion and fantasy

[IDemo]

6. They may actually use bunker busting nukes on the nuclear facilities

But to secure the oilfields for Exxon and BP (cue Toby Keith music here), I'm afraid your neighbor's son is going to have to be enlisted.

[Wizard777]

11. That was actually Bush's first proposal for Iraq. Nuke them.

He wanted to vaporize all the bio/chem/nuke weapons they had stockpiled there. That was stoped because it would eliminate his burden of proof. But that was Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when the deal was basically that congress was going to loan him the war contingent upon him producing the WMD's and if he couldn't that was his ass. He would be impeached. Then with Plamegate and all the other distractions. Congress somehow forgot to collect on his ass when the search for WMD's came up empty.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

4. Then we should forcefully remove the perpetrators of such an action...

[dana_b]

10. towards he bottom of the article:

"In 2005, before John Conyers became chair of the House Committee on the Judiciary, he introduced a bill to explore impeaching the president and was asked by Lewis Lapham of Harpers why he was for impeachment then. He replied:

“To take away the excuse that we didn’t know. So that two, or four, or ten years from now, if somebody should ask, ‘Where were you, Conyers, and where was the U.S. Congress?’ when the Bush administration declared the Constitution inoperative…none of the company here present can plead ignorance or temporary insanity say that ‘somehow it escaped our notice.’”

In the three years since then, the train of abuses and usurpations has gotten longer and Conyers has become chair of the committee. Yet he has dawdled and dawdled, and has shown no appetite for impeachment."

Not to blame him entirely since he's been threatened by Pelosi, but damn! We need to wait until AFTER they bomb Iran? It will be too late then.

[SidDithers]

5. Is that 1:01 am EST or GMT?...

I just want to know when I should post a link to this message.

Sid

[whistle]

7. I'm thinking when darkness comes over Iran, are they GMT?

[Paula Sims]

8. Actually, I see it more like Jan 18, 2009 (if Obama wins) (n/t)

[Contrary1]

9. And from an article I read yesterday:

"A U.S. intelligence report released late last year concluded that Iran has suspended its nuclear weapons program, but Israeli intelligence believes that is incorrect and that work is continuing."

Guess whose intelligence Bush will take as gospel. :eyes:

[cherokeeprogressive]

12. Is that the attack that was sure to happen in April, but for some reason postponed? n/t