Anyone Who Is Able Is A Goddamned Fool If They Don't Leave This Country After What We've Seen Today!

[Wiley50]

we are on a fast track to Fascism

and with this leadership our party has no intention of stopping it

I'd give my last plug nickel to get out

if that would pay my way

[SpiralHawk]

1. Hey, Wiley - what exactly did you (we) see?

Have had nose to grindstone - going to read up, and try to catch up....

[Wiley50]

6. This

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3486937

and this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3487248

[Wiley50]

8. Check out this

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#25274098

[bbinacan]

2. Have a nice trip. n/t

[TheWatcher]

14. Have a nice servitdude.

[bbinacan]

15. You too sport. n/t

[TheWatcher]

19. I'm not your Sport, friend.

Here's hoping you wake up to the circumstances you live in.

[bbinacan]

27. Fair enough Ace. n/t

[TheWatcher]

28. Cute namecalling doesn't change a thing.

[bbinacan]

34. Do you have a sense

of humor? Ever see "Men In Black"?

[TheWatcher]

37. One of my favorite films!

And sadly not much of one today, sorry. My apologies. The 4th Ammendment was basically given the heave-ho, so there is not much of a reason to celebrate.

Much like there was no reason to celebrate when they made a SEQUEL to Men In Black.

Mr. Smith seems to be extremely hit and miss. For every Six Degrees Of Separation and Ali, there seems to be five Bad Boys, independence Days, or Wild Wild Wests. (Or I, Robots (!))

I will admit though I would really like to take in a viewing of I Am Legend.

[bbinacan]

57. I've been told

I Am Legend is good. Thanks for the response,Slick.:hi: :evilgrin:

[Xenotime]

52. Ha. No shit. America is a dying country.

It's a proven failure in the World's eyes.

[BeHereNow]

38. And that is why I love you.

:hug: :loveya:

BHN

[TheWatcher]

39. You know how to make an old Radical Blush. :)

:hug:

[BeHereNow]

42. Like wine... old radicals get better with age.

At least that has been my experience in such things.
BHN

[TheWatcher]

46. Truer Words were never spoken.

:)

[Spouting Horn]

56. Yes, let's all flee to Europe

where these types of laws don't exist.

:eyes:

[whistle]

3. What are you referring to?

[AlCzervik]

4. i think he's talking about the fisa bill.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. I am guessing the FISA bill

They also passed a war funding bill today.

[Wiley50]

7. This

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3486937

and this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3487248

[OwnedByFerrets]

9. I wish I was able to.....

cant afford it.

[Occam Bandage]

10. So go. Emigration should only cost a few thousand dollars. Take out a loan.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp

[BeHereNow]

11. Pay no attention to fools Wiley50

By now, they are fairly obvious, no?

BHN:pals:

[Bigmack]

12. Canada won't take us.....

two old retired teachers. Said we'll just use the health care system. Said it nicely, of course, being Canadian.

We'd be living in the Gulf Islands near Vancouver right now, otherwise.

Canada is fucked up, too.... we know. Just nowhere NEAR as bad as the US.

[Terry in Austin]

36. Ah, the Gulf Islands

Spent a while on Lasqueti Island when I was having that, um, disagreement with my draft board. Lovely place.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. If I could afford it right now I'd spring

But I can't. so I get one more choice

Resistance

[Subdivisions]

16. Don't resist without me. n/t

[haele]

32. If I was on my own, it might be possible -

Hell, I'd half starve and live in my van near my workplace premisis to save up the money to move out of the country - my workplace is open 24 hours has showers, lockers, refridgerators and microwaves, there's parking that so long as you move around a bit, they won't tow you - and I've lived like that before. So, I'll be "a model employee..." - always on site in case of an emergancy. A PO box and a cellphone, and I'm set.

But I have a family that has special needs, and even moving down the block to a cheaper rental is out of the question at this point in time. Maybe once the kidlet gets her act together and moves out, we can save enough and go.

My father used to tell me that cities carry the seeds of their population's own destruction; once you move into one, you're usually locked into the fortunes of the city. As the economy tanks, there's usually nowhere for the masses to go, nor do they have many options for self-sufficiency, so 70% or so of any city's population will ride it's downward spiral like steerage class on the Titanic.

Haele

[Breeze54]

17. Great idea but don't call home from "over there'" !

They got you coming and going.

[blues90]

18. It certainly looks that way .

I would not want to leave and have no where to go and not a dime to get there. So I guess I have to stay and do what , I guess I can toss my guitar at them.

The only thing we have now is what many of us suspected all along.

We have a one party system well on it's way to the 2008 version of 1984.

[Vilis Veritas]

21. 1984 is long gone...what we have here

is even more insidious. It is 1984 and the vast majority think we are free...There was a post earlier today that had a great link and I lost it...the OP basically said that there is only an illusion of freedom and that is even more dangerous that outright Fascism.

Would that be a Demo-cism or Faciocracy? I am not good with word play...

saddlesore

[blues90]

24. well that's certainly true. I remember something about

the people actually building their own prisons but not even realizing it. They built their own cities and towns and they are us and they thought they were free . I can't recall if I read this or where it was anymore but this is true.

I feel over all these years we only relate not being free when we see bars or fences.

[lonestarnot]

20. We have absolutely been taken over! WE MUST FIGHT!

[Vilis Veritas]

22. at the barricades....

There are many ways to fight...

[lonestarnot]

23. At the barricades indeed!

[blues90]

25. talking about fighting here.

Well have not the people in Iraq been fighting? I feel they have and so far they are not doing very well. They had cities and towns that were bombed to hell which may not be the case here.

I really can't even imagine how this would look here if people were out here fighting. Yeah , if there were baracades we would at least know where.

I don't want to leave the impression I am afraid of dying , that's not the case. I just look around here where I live and don't see people who look like they would do any sort of fighting.

[lonestarnot]

29. What kind of fighting are you talking about?

LOL

[blues90]

31. apple fights are always good , could be expensive.

Horse shit fights are free.

[lonestarnot]

33. We may have to eat those apples! I've been eating horseshit for 7 1/2 years! 200 days left!

of a pure horseshit diet!

[BeHereNow]

40. Yeah, and IF you would call me for that walk in Griffith Park...we could start stock piling...

PLENTY of horse poop for the battle.

My best friends are all horses, cats and dogs
and I KNOW for a fact they would be happy to help.

But then, you never have called and my Sorrento
guitar gently weeps as she waits for you...

BHN

Edited for bad eyesight typo.

[conspirator]

26. You won't be better in the EU, except maybe France. We are also part of the New World Order n/t

[ThePowerofWill]

30. I ain't leavin'! I ain't no quitter!

I'll live my life as i see fit, or they can kill, or jail me.

Giving up is for the weak, and scared. I will admit to being pretty fuckin scared right now though.

[Terry in Austin]

35. Right on, Will. We need everybody here.

Besides, every place else is going to get pretty funky pretty quick, if it hasn't already.

Funky as it's gotten here, we are still probably in the place of minimum funkiness, and darn it, we can just see to it that funkiness abates!

[a la izquierda]

41. I'll let you know if it's any better south of the border.

I'm leaving in a few weeks. It's not a permanent move, but a temporary self-imposed exile/research trip for the better part of a year.
I loved it there last year and didn't want to come back. Really, it's not as bad as some people make it out to be, at least in Guadalajara.

But leaving isn't the answer. Staying and trying to change things is the way to do it.

[BeHereNow]

44. You might enjoy this web site michele77

I've posted it numerous times on DU and
hands down- everybody loves to visit it and dream
about another life-
http://www.escapeartist.com

My favorite pastime is shopping for farms in NZ.
I'm trying to talk my family into pooling our assets, talents
and desire to get the fuck out of here to buy one of
the fabulous places listed there on an ongoing basis.

At the moment- this would do nicely:
http://realestate.escapeartist.com/P-2005251/

Enjoy~!~
BHN

[ForrestGump]

43. I can leave

Any time (disregarding such practicalities as selling vehicles and so on, packing and shipping the rest of my stuff, etc).

But I think I'll hang out here a while yet. There's still much about this country that is worthy. There's still, somehow, a lot of potential. If the jingoism and the corporate fascist domination that help make this country anything but 'great' can be lost, or diminished, this could still have a chance to fulfill the promises made in years before.

Then again, it could go straight to hell. I'm hoping having the Good Guys (well, the Somewhat Better Guys) in power for a decade or so, at minimum, will salvage what's left of the 20th-century USA and lay the groundwork for a nation that finally does live up to the ideals proclaimed by those well-meaning but flawed white landowners in 1776.

[AnnieBW]

45. I'm not leaving

until after November 4th. If somehow McSame manages to get "elected", I'm gonna start looking for property in Australia.

[tnlefty]

47. Can't afford to leave, so I suppose we'll be stuck here

together.

I pulled out Naomi Wolf's book, 'The End of America, Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot' for re-reading today.

I noticed that yet again Stephen Cohen was the only member of the TN delegation who stood up, and he has a rwing dem primary challenger. :crazy:

[BeHereNow]

48. Hey Wiley50- I just dedicated a thread to you based on this one...

Here you go...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3494528
Come and play the game.
BHN

[MrSlayer]

49. And go where? It's happening all over the world.

It is the way of things, the NWO will have their way and there isn't a damn thing that can be done about it. My advice is just to have as much fun as possible and not worry about things that cannot be stopped or fought.

[BeHereNow]

50. Yeah, BUT STUPID people are not all over the world- America is FULL of them.

Just because it's happening all over the world doesn't mean you have to endure
living among the most ignorant people in it...
If I'm going down, I prefer to do so among
people who read something other than People Magazine and Danielle Steele novels.

BHN

[MrSlayer]

51. Fair enough.

All things considered I'd rather be in Amsterdam.

[Hekate]

53. So Wiley, is this like telling the Rapturists that you want their real estate when they leave?

LOL -- just asking.

Hekate

[BeHereNow]

58. Speaking of the Rapture... are you prepared? Rapture Release will assure you don't get left behind!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyXm77Aek4


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

BHN

[galledgoblin]

54. too much I love

that I won't just abandon because the fight is hard.

[ileus]

55. we're 7 months from being in power, I'll stick around.