Pelosi & Steny Hoyer Are Disgusting - Their comments on the Telecom Spy Bill

[EV_Ares]

"It's a balanced bill," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat. She did not say how she would vote, however. "I could argue it either way," she told reporters.

"The bill meets the standards the president called for," said White House spokesman Tony Fratto. "We encourage members of both parties to pass it."

House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer, a chief negotiator of the measure, said, "This bipartisan bill balances the needs of our intelligence community with Americans' civil liberties, and provides critical new oversight and accountability.

But Sen. Christopher Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, denounced the measure as "deeply flawed."

"The president should not be above the rule of law, nor should the telecommunications companies who supported his quest to spy on American citizens," Dodd said.

Link to entire article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080619/ts_nm/usa_surveillance_dc;_ylt=AkfWMDbpvVXUJ8NzTNnZtees0NUE

[thepurpose]

1. She better not vote no after making that statement. She needs to be on the record taking our rights

away.

[libnnc]

2. Hey Nancy, did you sign off on this too?

T O R T U R E


***W A R C R I M E S***


Gen. Taguba: Bush Administration Committed War Crimes

The Army general who first investigated the abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of committing war crimes. Retired Major General Antonio Taguba made the comment in a new report about US torture practices. Taguba wrote, “The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture.” Taguba went on to say, “The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.” <snip>

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/19/headlines#1





Thursday, June 19, 2008
The Great Torture Scandal

McClatchy and other reporters are abruptly pulling the curtain away from the Bush team's illegal practices in arresting people arbitrarily, declining to offer proof that they were guilty of anything, detaining them indefinitely without trial or charges, and deliberately torturing them to the extent of leaving long-term scars and disabilities. The torture practices originated not with lower-level officers but with Donald Rumsfeld and others in Bush's inner circle, who then later blamed lower-level officials for developing the ideas that Rumsfeld ordered them to develop. Nothing they have done has survived a court challenge where one has been permitted.<snip>

http://www.juancole.com/2008/06/great-torture-scandal.html





A Senate investigation has concluded that top Pentagon officials began assembling lists of harsh interrogation techniques in the summer of 2002 for use on detainees at Guantanamo Bay and that those officials later cited memos from field commanders to suggest that the proposals originated far down the chain of command, according to congressional sources briefed on the findings.<snip>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602779.html

[butterfly77]

3. Steny Hoyer is...

a republicon and pretends as though he is doing what the Dems want he loves his buddies the CONs..Pelosi and Reid need to go...

[butterfly77]

18. What did I say yesterday...

[Bluebear]

4. "I could argue it either way." - but how did you VOTE, Ms. Pelosi?

[LakeSamish706]

5. I really am disgusted with many of these so-called Democrats in both...

House and the Senate.... They have bent over backward to give every F***ing thing that the little shit has wanted. Sure wish we could do a clean sweep of the entire Congress, and start anew.

[AndyA]

6. "The bill meets the standards the president called for..."

That pretty much says it all for me.

The President who lied us into a war that has killed over 4,000 soldiers.

The President who authorized TORTURE.

The President who outed a COVERT CIA Agent during a time of war.

In a normal world, that President would have already been tried and convicted of his crimes, and would be serving the rest of his life behind bars.

Thanks, Pelosi. For nothing. You are a HORRIBLE Speaker of the House, and you're UNWORTHY of the position based on your actions.

[Eric J in MN]

11. It may be too late to primary the Democrats who vote for this in 2008,

...but I hope we do so in 2010.

[MotorCityMan]

12. And of course the most important consideration

is making sure Mr. 28% gets exactly whatever the fuck he wants.

[gkhouston]

13. I've had some power outages recently -- when did the USA become a monarchy?

How about meeting the standards of the Constitution and other extant law? (Hint: President's word is not law.) :grr:

[mhastings]

7. Ugh. I hope...

Cindy Sheehan creams this woman in the election.

[jeff30997]

8. Me too.

Welcome to DU mhastings! :toast:

[Eric J in MN]

9. We don't have civil liberties when people like Steny Hoyer,,,

...protect phone companies who gave Bush officials our private information without a warrant.

Because of Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD) and Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), the next time any official asks a phone company for information without a warrant, they have no incentive to refuse.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/200799.php

[bdamomma]

20. they are all holding out their hands for the greenbacks

and to cover their butts.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

10. Joe Lieberman and Nancy Pelosi should open a "Bed & Breakfast"...

And when the guests come down in the morning and want maple syrup for their pancakes she can say "Maple Syrup is OFF THE TABLE."

"I've got your back, Mr. President"

[EV_Ares]

15. LOL, U get 5 Stars for that one Amerigo. eom.

[MasonJar]

14. Pelosi did not want Hoyer; she wanted Murtha. I wish she had prevailed.

Call them in droves. I called my rep, Hoyer, Pelosi and Obama. Only my rep is going to support my position. Obama is AWOL on this important issue. Call him and the others. It is our only chance.

[EFerrari]

17. There's only nine cents worth of difference between Hoyer and Murtha.

And I will never wish she prevails on anything ever again. She's my rep and I can't even call her because she is deaf to us.

[newmajority]

16. Anyone in this country who puts the interest of a foreign nation above the United States of America

should be immediately arrested and charged with TREASON. And I don't give a FUCK which foreign country it is, NONE of them take precedence over the US.

GET THESE TERRORIST ENABLING TRAITORS THE FUCK OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!!!!! :grr:

[bdamomma]

19. I'm going to call Senator Dodd's office he is not my Senator

but this must be stopped. It must be stopped. Bush is an outright criminal and he is not above the law.

[dorkulon]

21. Sure she could argue it either way, because she's a sophist with no principles.

These Dems aren't wimps or capitulators; they're collaborators.