Ex-State Dept. official: Over a hundred detainees died in U.S. custody, at least 25 murdered

[enough]

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/18/ex-state-dept-official-hundreds-of-detainees-died-in-us-custody-at-least-25-murdered/


Includes VIDEO

At today’s House Judiciary Subcommittee on Civil Rights hearing on torture, Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, told Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) that over 100 detainees have died in U.S. custody, with up to 27 of these declared homicides:



Transcript:

NADLER: Colonel Wilkerson, in your prepared testimony, you write that “as I compiled my dossier for Secretary Powell, and as I did further research, and as my views grew firmer and firmer I had to reread that memo (of February 7, 2002), “I needed to balance in my own mind the overwhelming evidence that my own government had sanctioned abuse and torture, which at its worse had led to the murder of 25 detainees and at least 100 detainee deaths. We have murder at least 25 people in detention. That was the clear low point of the evidence.” Your testimony said 100 detainees have died in detention; do you believe the 25 of those were in effect murdered?

WILKERSON: Mr. Chairman, I think the number’s actually higher than that now. Last time I checked it was 108, and the total number that were declared homicides by the military services, or by the CIA, or others doing investigations, CID, and so forth — was 25, 26, 27.

NADLER: Were declared homicides?

WILKERSON: Right, starting as early as December 2001 in Afghanistan.

NADLER: And these were homicides committed by people engaged in interrogations?

WILKERSON: Or in guarding prisoners, or something like that. People who were in detention.

NADLER: They were in detention, not trying to escape or anything, declared homicides by our own authorities.

[babylonsister]

1. This makes me ill. And we still can't hold anyone accountable? nt

[Stuart G]

13. I agree..

My how far we have fallen...perhaps someone will be accountable..but when and who?

[skooooo]

2. ..

:scared:

This thing is so ugly, and the details are just starting to come out (I guess).

[seemslikeadream]

3. This is gonna get ugly

Philippe Sands laid it all out for Congress do something or the world would

[tridim]

4. Although it'll be good to see the Neocons finally get what they deserve.

President Obama will help us get through it.

[kath]

5. neocons never get what they deserve.

They've been getting away with evil shit as least as far back the October Surprise and Iran-Contra.

[seemslikeadream]

6. oh yes I want me some ugly

M$M is going to have to report this someday, I wonder how the masses will react.



Bush Administration Torture Trail
Posted by seemslikeadream on Tue Jun-17-08 04:16 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080617/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/detainees_treatment


Military lawyers objected to harsher interrogation


Military lawyers warned against the harsh detainee interrogation techniques approved by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in 2002, contending in separate memos weeks before Rumsfeld's endorsement that they could be illegal, a Senate panel has found.

The investigation by the Senate Armed Services Committee also has confirmed that senior administration officials, including the Pentagon's then-general counsel William "Jim" Haynes, sought information on a program involving military psychologists early on to devise the more aggressive methods — which included the use of dogs, making a detainee stand for long periods of time and forced nudity, according to officials familiar with the findings.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the information has not been formally released. Details, including the names of the service lawyers who objected to the interrogation techniques, were to be discussed at an open committee hearing Tuesday.

Rumsfeld's December 2002 approval of the aggressive interrogation techniques and later objections by military lawyers have been widely reported. But the November protests by service lawyers had not, and the interest by Pentagon civilians in military psychologists has surfaced only piecemeal.









This is what Philippe Sands was talking about at the hearing

There seems to be a direct connection between torture at Guantanamo and the beginning of 24

Individuals were watching and influenced by the TV program 24

TV show had many friends at Guantanamo.

Three weeks after the beginning of 2nd season of 24 the torture began.


Philippe Sands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUICm1VH-rQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38GxxE2CBY


The Green Light: Attorney Philippe Sands Follows the Bush Administration Torture Trail

A new exposé in Vanity Fair by British attorney Philippe Sands reveals new details about how attorney John Yoo and other high-ranking administration lawyers helped design and implement the interrogation policies seen at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and secret CIA prisons. According to Vanity Fair, then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and other top officials personally visited Guantanamo in 2002, discussed interrogation techniques and witnessed interrogations. Sands joins us in our firehouse studio.



Philippe Sands: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPAGNNsrwUw



Jimmy Carter: Talks George Bush & war crimes at Hay Festival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWBY2hO6vA

When pressed by Philippe Sands...on Bush's recent admission that he had authorized interrogation procedures widely seen as amounting to torture, Carter replied that he was sure Bush would be able to live a peaceful, 'productive life - in our country'" after he leaves the White House. Sands later said that he had "understood that to be 'clear confirmation' that, while Bush would face no challenge in his own country, 'what happened outside the country was another matter entirely.'


Phillipe Sands Discusses Torture and U.S. Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6IU755uFM

On Bill Moyers Journal, human rights lawyer Phillipe Sands discusses his new book on how the U.S. came to abandon the Geneva Convention and accept torture. Sands says Bush administration officials are unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions.



Rep. Mike Pence: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTla3-JZhnM

Philippe Sands attempts to enlighten Rep. Pence as to why torture is wrong during his appearance before the House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. hearing on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules


Rep.John Conyers: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLCNypjK6k

Philippe Sands responds to Rep. Conyers question as to what avenues of inquiry the committee should undertake and expounds upon his testimony before the House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. hearing on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules.



Addington was the leader of the pack, went to Guantanamo himself




Rep.Artur Davis: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sst5vMpOFx4

David Rivkin tries to claim that the IRA was a different threat but Rep.Davis throws his flawed logic back in his face. Philippe Sands also pointedly rebukes Rivkin assertions. Discussion of Presidental pardons to exonerate torture policies employed is hypothetically touched on. From hearing by House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules.



Rep.Issa & Rep.Ellison: Guantanamo Bay Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKZ5WaTWdA

Philippe Sands responds to the slick and sly Rep.Issa and details his thoughts further upon question by Rep. Ellison during hearing by House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules.

[merh]

7. It is no coincidence that ...

U.S. Army Invites Sutherland to Give Anti-Torture Speech

HOLLYWOOD - 24 star Kiefer Sutherland has accepted an invitation from the U.S. military to teach army cadets it is wrong to torture prisoners.

Sutherland, who plays agent Jack Bauer on the show, has agreed to talk to cadets at the West Point military academy in New York state after army chiefs claimed the show's torture scenes are influencing its newest recruits.

Earlier this month, Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan visited the set of 24 to urge its makers to cut down on torture scenes.

-snip-

http://www.hollywood.com/news/US_Army_Invites_Sutherland_to_Give_Anti_Torture_Speech/3662740

[seemslikeadream]

8. AYSM?

There seems to be a direct connection between torture at Guantanamo and the beginning of 24

Individuals were watching and influenced by the TV program 24

TV show had many friends at Guantanamo.

Three weeks after the beginning of 2nd season of 24 the torture began.






Ya just can't make this stuff up



Kiefer says sorry my bad

[Disturbed]

9. The Busholini Regime is engaging in territorial conquests.

This Regime has committed many War Crimes.

[Psyop Samurai]

16. just when you thought we were all the way through the looking glass

Let me get this straight...

Spook-infested Hollywood produces a show to normalize torture as "the patriotic thing to do", and now that some unknowable tide appears to have turned amongst the ptb, the TV show is deemed to be adversely "influencing the newest recruits". So a brigadier general "visits the set" to urge its makers to "cut down" on torture scenes. And in a truly noble, "one big happy family" gesture, our conscientious Hollywood star surrogate has "accepted an invitation from the U.S. military to teach army cadets it is wrong to torture prisoners".

Are we there yet, Alice?

:silly: :woohoo: :wtf:

You're right, ya just can't make this stuff up.

[seemslikeadream]

24. There's no place like home

[hootinholler]

11. GET ugly?

C'mon, SLAD, what is it now?

I'll settle for getting public.
;)

-Hoot

[bdamomma]

14. I hope the World steps in those who believe in the rule of law

[libnnc]

27. I will NOT let this sink

[defendandprotect]

10. Thank you for reporting --- and those watching it and letting us know . . .

It's getting so late, it's hard to believe that so much is know, has been know, and
so little has been done to stop their people!

[malaise]

12. But, but, but

I heard W speaking to Rethugs last night and he said he supports a culture of life (in the womb)!!

Cold blooded murderers!!!

[indepat]

15. I one didn't know better, would seem something akin to premeditated mass murder

:D

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. !

[jaksavage]

18. By their own words.

They are guilty of torture. X 108.

[wildbilln864]

19. *k&r! nt

[librechik]

20. IMPEACH AND INDICT! n/t

[libnnc]

21. kick

[Supersedeas]

22. Vicky Clark found no red flags to some of these homocides

[libnnc]

23. war criminals

[XOKCowboy]

25. This used to be a great country..... nt

[libnnc]

26. I will NOT let this sink

[countryjake]

28. kick

[bluesmail]

29. Yes Phillipe Sands. Take care of it or the world will have the

OBLIGATION to STOP IT!

[pleah]

30. Oh, god.

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot

[MadrasT]

31. How????

How are they getting away with this?

Will anyone EVER stop this BS????

I am sick at heart.